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Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:45 am
by kvnrthr
Not sure if this is an "exploit" but it felt pretty gamey. The Antigonids get bonuses for being at war, but the simplest way to get this is to declare war on very distant landlocked nations in the middle of Europe that cannot possibly fight you.

So you can decrease your status age easily without the exertion of actually fighting a war. And these phony wars tend to end very easily since there are no conflicts with objectives.

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:55 am
by Southern Hunter
I did wonder about this when I read the Antigone country factors. If it is as easy to exploit as you say, that probably makes that nation a bit easy to play

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:03 am
by devoncop
Agree with this. The exploit about faraway countries could be solved by a war only counting towards the total once at least one participant has lost units in that war.

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:07 am
by zakblood
the negative of being at war is also you can't trade with them

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:11 am
by Southern Hunter
Sure but if they are far distant, you weren’t going to anyway

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 pm
by Geffalrus
Personally I try not to use this exploit. A lot of times, it's moot because all my AI neighbors DOW me anyway.

But even then, this isn't massively helpful early in the game because you already get a lot of decadence from the size of your faction. I don't think Government Age actually factors in that much. Especially because you're usually so embroiled in war that culture generation takes a back seat.

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:20 pm
by devoncop
Geffalrus wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:42 pm Personally I try not to use this exploit. A lot of times, it's moot because all my AI neighbors DOW me anyway.

But even then, this isn't massively helpful early in the game because you already get a lot of decadence from the size of your faction. I don't think Government Age actually factors in that much. Especially because you're usually so embroiled in war that culture generation takes a back seat.
Early game you are quite right.

By mid and late game it becomes very important though.

It is simple to fix to be fair.

Re: Antigonid War Bonus Exploit

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:49 pm
by Geffalrus
Yeah, I'd agree that the fix needs to be done. At the very least, there needs to be a proximity element. Enemy within X number of regions of an Antigonid region.