Slitherine

I checked the province units of the greek and thracian provinces,but I didn't find the skirmish or massed
peltasts,is there some thing wrong with the game or just I didn't find it.But I think it was not my mistake because I tried to play each nations who owned those provinces but still can't hire them.

you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).

best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).

best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast

Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.

Some units are only available with higher level buildings.

Could that be the reason?

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pm

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).

best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast

Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.

most units have a 1-1 translate (the early Roman legion is the exception), but you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:36 pm Some units are only available with higher level buildings.

Could that be the reason?

It couldn't be.

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pm

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm you certainly can get the Thracian provincial unit if you hold the thrace Province - I've done this a number of times. If I recall it translates to FoG2 as a thracian peltast with rhompaia (forgive my spelling of this).

best to let someone who really knows FoG2 reply to the second bit but I believe that is how the mercenaries recruited for Greek army translate as some sort of peltast

Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.

but you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?

Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pm

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:27 pm

Yes,I tried then,the thracian warrior in the empire will translate as the massed thracian peltasts in the fog2,but I didn't see any of them been translate to skirmishers,skirmisher peltasts are more useful and important.

but you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?

Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.

If you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.

I do not understand

The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher

Why can not they attack from a distance?

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:30 pm

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pm

loki100 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
but you can recruit more generic skirmishers (I guess come across as javelin armed LI)?

Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.

If you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.

Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?

thierry2015 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:55 pm I do not understand

The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher

Why can not they attack from a distance?

Because "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance.

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:30 pm

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:54 pm
Seems it doesn't works,let's wait the devs,to see what will they say.

If you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.

Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?

Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.

Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.

I do not understand The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher Why can not they attack from a distance?

Because "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance

I understand

But at FOG 2 can not we have
--- one medium foot (may be less strong)
AND Mostly
--- one skirmisher ???

Indeed for example to the battle of sphacteria
800 Peltastes and 800 archers defeated 420 Spartans
(the Athenian Hoplites having refused the fight)

Please give us Peltastes Skirmishers

thierry2015 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:14 am

I do not understand The Peltastes (originating in Thrace) are Skirmisher Why can not they attack from a distance?

Because "massed" peltasts(both greek and thracian)act as medium foot in the fog2.But skirmisher peltasts can attack from distance

I understand

But at FOG 2 can not we have
--- one medium foot (may be less strong)
AND Mostly
--- one skirmisher ???

It's already have skirmisher peltasts in fog2,but,in the empire for now I didn't see any export have skirmisher peltasts,and I didn't see any thracian spearmen too,it did have in the original fog2,speak honesty I don't understand and don't like the unit's translation,just make the game like the totalwar,what you hire,then what will you use.And most important thing is empire and fog2's units' name and correct models are worlds apart and dividid,the normal units which can hire not totally based on the fog2's army lists,likes when I play the Epirus in the empire,but I can't hire the macedonian-style lancers,in fog2's Pyrrhus of Epirus' army list it did have.And,some times you will never know what will your units in empire translate as what when export to the fog2.

devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:52 am

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:30 pm

If you play as Dacia you have recruitable superior Thracian skirmishers with the correct building and start with 3 units of them for info. I am just trying out Dacia now which is now I know.

Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?

Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.

Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.

Did you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:59 pm

devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:52 am

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:09 am
Thracia,not the Dacia,how could Dacia hire the Thracian peltasts?

Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.

Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.

Did you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.

Sorry I don't export my battles.

I prefer the battles played out in Empires as a decent FoG2 player I feel gets an unfair advantage in Empires against the fairly predictable FoG2 AI.

Also I prefer the better flow of the strategy if battles are played in Empires.

devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:10 pm

Dux Limitis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:59 pm

devoncop wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:52 am


Dacia was populated with a mix of Thracian,Ionian and other tribes so native Thracian skirmishers would have been used.

Also Thracian Mercenaries as you know were widely travelled.

Did you ever see the thracian spearmen unit when export?I didn't see and don't know how to hire them now.

Sorry I don't export my battles.

I prefer the battles played out in Empires as a decent FoG2 player I feel gets an unfair advantage in Empires against the fairly predictable FoG2 AI.

Also I prefer the better flow of the strategy if battles are played in Empires.

Damn,seems I only can try it by myself,I hate this game now because of this.

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thierry2015 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:36 am.

It's not the peltast,peltast have it's model in the fog2,with helmet,pelta and javalins,and it's armor stage is "protected". Open the fog2 and see the greek army lists,then you'll know what's the peltast looks like.

It's not the peltast,peltast have it's model in the fog2,with helmet,pelta and javalins,and it's armor stage is "protected". Open the fog2 and see the greek army lists,then you'll know what's the peltast looks like.

yes in FOG 2 the Greek list = below

but then where are the Peltasts skirmishers ?