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probable erratum in painting section
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:47 am
by lawrenceg
I noticed that the section in the rules on painting mentions "PVC glue" a couple of times.
This is glue for sticking polyvinyl chloride, e.g. PVC plumbing pipe.
I think it should be "PVA glue"
This is polyvinyl alcohol*, and commonly used for the purposes described in the text.
* Do NOT try to drink it.
Re: probable erratum in painting section
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:50 am
by rbodleyscott
lawrenceg wrote:* Do NOT try to drink it.
Why? Would you come to a sticky end?
Re: probable erratum in painting section
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:38 pm
by babyshark
rbodleyscott wrote:lawrenceg wrote:* Do NOT try to drink it.
Why? Would you come to a sticky end?
As a moderator I feel I should step in here . . . .
Marc
Re: probable erratum in painting section
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:10 pm
by peterrjohnston
rbodleyscott wrote:lawrenceg wrote:* Do NOT try to drink it.
Why? Would you come to a sticky end?
Only if it was glühwein...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:51 pm
by jdm
Well
I have to confess it is a typo but our proof reader is to stuckup to admit it
JDM
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:26 pm
by ars_belli
Bit of a sticky wicket, eh?
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:23 pm
by flameberge
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but what is PVA glue? I read in various gaming books (all made from the UK) about the use of PVA glue but have never heard of it other than in gaming books. So I go into the hardware store and ask where I can find PVA glue. The guy looks at me like I'm from another planet and asks what is PVA glue? Uhh.. well, I read about it in a book but don't know.

So is PVA glue like Elmer's white glue or maybe wood glue?
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:49 pm
by peterrjohnston
I know it better as white glue. Used for paper or wood. When it sets it's fairly clear.
Don't drink it though...

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:14 pm
by OhReally
peterrjohnston wrote:I know it better as white glue. Used for paper or wood. When it sets it's fairly clear.
Don't drink it though...

It is to thick to drink properly, but its pretty tasty mixed with some glitter...
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:49 pm
by pezhetairoi
PVA is not the same as white glue.
PVA is flexible, non yellowing, and waterproof when dry. Its also "conservation friendly" according to my wife who works at the City Archives.
White glue can yellow overtime, often becomes brittle, and can usually be dissolved with water and soap.
White glue costs much less, and will usually do the job for us model makers.
PVA is hard to find in Canada, and I assume also in the USA. People from the UK mention it often, I can only assume its more common there.
If you are looking for PVA in Canada try: Carr McLean, or University Products.
If you are looking for PVA in USA: Archival Supplies, .... ?
A bookmaking/fine paper supplier may carry it also.
There are other alternatives to PVA. You can use Acrylic mediums from an art supply store, they have very similar properties and are very adhesive. Just be careful to pick the right viscosity (thick/thin) and lustre (gloss/matt).
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:31 pm
by nikgaukroger
Amazing what you learn on these forums - I always assumes PVA and White Glue were the same thing

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:38 pm
by lawrenceg
nikgaukroger wrote:Amazing what you learn on these forums - I always assumes PVA and White Glue were the same thing

Since lookinginto this in more detail I have discovered that PVA is
sometimes polyvinyl
alcohol, which (I suspect)would be the "high-tech" glue (also known as PVOH), but it is more often polyvinyl
acetate, which
is "white glue". Often you will find PVA mentioned in the small print on your white glue bottle.
Anyway, "white glue" is the thing to use for basing your figures.
PVA(cetate) is non-toxic, but white glue sometimes contains anti-fungal additives, which might not be good for you.
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:41 pm
by jez
As a Tech Teacher I can confirm that in the uk PVA is white glue, however although there are many similarities the quality of white glue, marvin medium and the like it is of poor quality.
Frankly I would recommend buying a good quality glue such as Bostik rather than cheap stuff.
As an aside although it lists it as water soluble it really isn't it might make it a little soft but it will have to soak for days to have an appreciable effect
Regards
jez
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:51 pm
by Redpossum
In the US, or at least the Western US, a chain called Michael's Arts and Crafts usually has in each store an aisle of materials for making long-term scrapbooks. This includes archival-quality non-yellowing papers and adhesives. I am guessing this would be a good place to look for this adhesive.
Once again, we see that american english and british english are different, and furthermore products which may be readily available in one place can be rare or even illegal in another place.
Right, now, repeat after me, the boot is the trunk, the bonnet is the hood, pissed means drunk not angry, and when your friend asks you for a rubber, she means an eraser not a condom.
And we will not even discuss the horrors of Bovril, except to say it's marginally less disgusting than Vegimite.