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2D Art Graphs

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:45 am
by Alma69
Do you guys plan to update those.
Seams like many of the units lack they proper pictures. They use some generic pic, sometimes even from quite other type of formation. Putting bigger resolution graphs on detailed screen would be better too.

I understand that 3D graphs are lets say poor and expensive to do, but in game like this at least fine 2D art is needed to move our imagination. Or even you know, to know what unit really is, not everyone have much knowledge about period.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:28 am
by rbodleyscott
Alma69 wrote:Do you guys plan to update those.
Seams like many of the units lack they proper pictures. They use some generic pic, sometimes even from quite other type of formation. Putting bigger resolution graphs on detailed screen would be better too.

I understand that 3D graphs are lets say poor and expensive to do, but in game like this at least fine 2D art is needed to move our imagination. Or even you know, to know what unit really is, not everyone have much knowledge about period.
The game has over 200 unit types in it. It was not economically viable for a niche game such as this to have separate unit portraits for each unit type. The unit icons are therefore intended to give the player at-a-glance unit function information, not to be a representation of that specific unit.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:41 pm
by Alma69
You guys are too greed then. I can give you contacts to fine artist that would make tiny low res graphs like this for very cheap.
Benefits of fine 2d graphs would be really big for immersion and success of a whole line of this product.
Cost-benefits wise is like no brainer. No one would pull a finger at you for not having super duper 3d graphs if you would have at least fine 2d art.

Even not payed mod teams in many games do better in things like that.
200 is not that much as its sound like for this low res graphs. Besides of course, there are units and units. More important ones and less.
Landknechts or Rodoleros for example should have their own graphs, as Polish Winged ones, I would say. You know those don`t even have to be super historically accurate, detailed and stuff, as its not right now, but you need something.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:13 pm
by Alma69
How about DLC with fine art? For those who want to pay for looks.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:10 pm
by rbodleyscott
Alma69 wrote:How about DLC with fine art? For those who want to pay for looks.
It would certainly be possible for anyone with the time, inclination and ability to a make a mod with new unit icon graphics. In order for us to make it available for in-game download, the art would need to be original rather than copied from the internet as that would cause copyright issues.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:55 am
by Alma69
You mean that someone will mode it for free, for you?
Or that you made paid DLC and share income with author?

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:17 am
by jomni
Richard means that to be able to sell an art pack DLC, the art work should be all original so that there aren't any copyright issues.

For a free user mod, it is less strict but it is still best practice not to blatantly copy.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:23 pm
by Alma69
Its not sounds like jomni. "mod" and "in-game download" sound like they just wait for some enthusiastic modder to do their job for free.
My wife is an artist, she even declared willing to do some pictures, but you know, shes not that fan of a game as I am.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:33 pm
by w_michael
Alma69 wrote:Its not sounds like jomni. "mod" and "in-game download" sound like they just wait for some enthusiastic modder to do their job for free.
My wife is an artist, she even declared willing to do some pictures, but you know, shes not that fan of a game as I am.
Your questions have been asked and answered. If you have a business proposal then please send a PM to RBS for his consideration. Reading your childish insults to the game designer and publisher is very tiresome and not productive at all.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:52 am
by Alma69
Answer is obviously not clear enough, as I and jomni, we see very different things in it.
What is really childish is your assumption that my intend was to insult anyone.

And I don`t seen any RBS around either, so not sure who are you talking about.

Re: 2D Art Graphs

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:44 am
by rbodleyscott
We do not currently have any plans to create a DLC with individual unit icons for all the unit types.