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The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:42 pm
by Martin0112
Here are the runners and riders for 'The Worlds 2015' in Lisbon


Akers, Jon (GBR) Later Anglo-Irish
Ballester, Carlos (ESP) Later Seleucid
Bannister, David (GBR) Ordonnance French
Blankenhorn, Tim(GER) Late Heian to Muromachi Japanese
Byron, Craig (NZL) Ordonnance French
Card, Peter (GBR) Early North African Dynasties
Costa, Gonçalo (POR) Arab Conquest
Costa, João (POR) Free Company
Cutner, Alan (GBR), Warring States to Western Han Chinese
Dalby, Pete (GBR) Yuan Chinese
Dufour, Frederic (FRA) Warring States to Western Han Chinese
Fairhurst, Lynda (GBR) Ordonnance French
Fairhurst, David (GBR) Early Achaemenid Persian
Frémont, Guillaume (FRA) Ordonnance French
Jamieson, Gordon (GBR) Middle Plantagenet English
Jeffrey-Cook, Richard (GBR) Early Achaemenid Persian
Jelley, Philip (GBR) Medieval Portugese
Johnston, Paul (GBR) Albanian
Kvisle, Brett (AUS) Lydian
Ladanyi, Stephen (NZL) Principate Roman
Listner, Bodo (GER) Later Hungarian
Monticoli, Dino (GBR) Dailami Dynasties
Murton, Steve (GBR) Early Achaemenid Persian
Powell, Phil (GBR) Moldavian or Wallachian
Quinta, Marco (POR) Neo-Assyrian Empire
Ruddock, Dave (GBR) Later Hungarian
Saunders, Dave (GBR) Medieval Portugese
Shaw, Terry (GBR) Later Ottoman Turkish
Wirt, Martin (GER) Mongol Conquest

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:09 pm
by AlanCutner
Nice variety of lists, though I believe Brett has had to take his Lydians home.

Two questions -
1. How is the first round draw being done, eg are same nationality kept apart?
2. Do opponents just agree whether to use metric or imperial, or is there a tournament default?

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:23 am
by LEmpereur
AlanCutner wrote:Nice variety of lists, though I believe Brett has had to take his Lydians home.

Two questions -
1. How is the first round draw being done, eg are same nationality kept apart?
2. Do opponents just agree whether to use metric or imperial, or is there a tournament default?
The Emperor play imperial ! :mrgreen:

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:49 am
by petedalby
The original details suggest that the draw is by ranking but they may now be by date of army.

I believe the intention was to avoid playing someone from the same country in round 1 but with over 50% of entrants coming from GB that will be impossible.

Can't answer the measurement question but hope it is imperial.

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:07 pm
by LEmpereur
petedalby wrote:...I believe the intention was to avoid playing someone from the same country in round 1 but with over 50% of entrants coming from GB that will be impossible...
Please make Us do not play against the other french... :wink:

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:36 pm
by philqw78
Well Alan is now from Scotland and Dave is from Pluto. So that should sort it out

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:17 pm
by grahambriggs
petedalby wrote:The original details suggest that the draw is by ranking but they may now be by date of army.

I believe the intention was to avoid playing someone from the same country in round 1 but with over 50% of entrants coming from GB that will be impossible.

Can't answer the measurement question but hope it is imperial.
You seem to forget Alan is from Scotland, not Essex. Scotland is a different country to England, so he could play any of the English players...

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:26 pm
by AlanCutner
Wow.....I've become a standard bearer for Scottish freedom......who would have thought?

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:33 am
by Martin0112_slith
OK, here are some quick answers for the questions

1. We are playing imperial!
2. First round: The Setup will be as historical as possible. We are using an algorithm taking into account some different things like
- from which armylist is the army Chosen
- what armydate does the army have
- from which Country is the player coming
- civil wars (same army on both sides) will be avoided if possible.

As we have more than 50% of the Players being UK-Players (hey, I'm german, I do not care about scottish players or players from Mars;) ) I will create 2 pools for round 1
Pool 1 is for the non-UK-players, and pool 2 for the rest. The rule says that each player in pool 1 will play a player in pool 2, so each non-UK-Player will face an UK-Player.
For round 2 I will try to make sure that each UK-Player who have played another UK-Player in round 1 will get a non-UK-Player, but for the rest I will only make sure that for the next 3 rounds every Player (except UK) will not face a Player from the same Country. For round 5 and 6, each game is possible.

Does this answer the questions?

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:58 am
by philqw78
Martin0112_slith wrote:I will create 2 pools for round 1
Pool 1 is for the non-UK-players, and pool 2 for the rest. The rule says that each player in pool 1 will play a player in pool 2, so each non-UK-Player will face an UK-Player.
For round 2 I will try to make sure that each UK-Player who have played another UK-Player in round 1 will get a non-UK-Player, but for the rest I will only make sure that for the next 3 rounds every Player (except UK) will not face a Player from the same Country.
For round 5 and 6, each game is possible.
It doesn't add up but I think you mean
Rounds 1 and 2, UK players will play at least one non-UK player.
Rounds 1 to 4 non-UK players will not face a player from their declared country.
Rounds 5 and 6 play anybody.

And an algorithm. I thought Germans had less rhythm than the English

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:09 am
by dave_r
I was more interested in the bit where Martin said "I'm German, I don't care about the Scottish" :)

Can't we just do Swiss chess from rounds three onwards?

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:17 am
by philqw78
Stopping people playing there wife may help as well

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:43 am
by spotteddog
dave_r wrote:I was more interested in the bit where Martin said "I'm German, I don't care about the Scottish" :)

"Can't we just do Swiss"
Crikey I'm confused - who's the Swiss player then?

HH

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:20 am
by davidandlynda
"Stopping people playing their wife"
Unless there is something you and Dave are not telling us that is only Lynda and me , she'll be so far ahead of me it won't matter anyway
David

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:34 am
by philqw78
I could never marry Dave. I enjoy crushing his hopes too much.

Tho I suppose that's a lot like marriage

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:39 pm
by timmy1
I don't know about Portugal but in the UK it is illegal to beat your wife...

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:26 pm
by titanu
timmy1 wrote:I don't know about Portugal but in the UK it is illegal to beat your wife...
Only with a stick wider than your thumb :shock:

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:58 pm
by viking123
I think that was banned in England and Wales in 1926 - not certain about Scotland they may still allow it!!!

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:21 pm
by LEmpereur
Anybody know the results ?

Ok We :arrow:

Re: The worlds 2015 - Runners & Riders

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:46 pm
by dave_r
I believe the top 7 were:

1. Pete Dalby
2. Paul Johnstone
3. Guillame Fremont
4. Frederic Dufour
5. Dave Ruddock
6. Dino Monticoli
7. David Bannister

I had a really good time at Lisbon, very well organised, six really good games. Despite being drawn against Phil in round one...

Many thanks to Phil (Powell), Frederic (Dufour), Craig (Byron), Martin (Wirt), Alan (Cutner) and Paul (Johnstone) for some very enjoyable and very hard games.

Can't praise the Lisbon organising team enough - well done to Joao, Fernando and everybody else involved in yet another successful tournament.