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Conforming to routers
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:47 pm
by philqw78
If a BG charges routers must it conform. If it does can it then do other conform things like shift bases into contact?
If it doesn't can I then angle my charge so that I can shepherd the routers in the direction I want?
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:35 pm
by dave_r
philqw78 wrote:If a BG charges routers must it conform. If it does can it then do other conform things like shift bases into contact?
Yes and no. Since the bases would never (ever) fight then you can't expand.
If it doesn't can I then angle my charge so that I can shepherd the routers in the direction I want?
No for the reason above.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:59 am
by zoltan
Perhaps you could go back to basics please?
1. Can a BG declare a charge on a routing enemy BG?
2. If the answer to Q1 is "yes", what are the mechanics of resolving the impact, combat and joint action phases?
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:38 am
by dave_r
zoltan wrote:Perhaps you could go back to basics please?
1. Can a BG declare a charge on a routing enemy BG?
2. If the answer to Q1 is "yes", what are the mechanics of resolving the impact, combat and joint action phases?
You can (and indeed must if you are shock) declare charges on routers.
There is no impact or melee, just a pursuit in the jap as normal against routers.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:51 pm
by davidandlynda
The trick then is that the routers must rout in the direction of the charge, can sometimes have useful effects
David
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:18 pm
by dave_r
davidandlynda wrote:The trick then is that the routers must rout in the direction of the charge, can sometimes have useful effects
David
Nope, because the chargers conform in the movement phase
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:34 am
by grahambriggs
I've played this wrong in the past.
The conforming rules are all about conforming to the enemy in close combat. Since close combat stops once one side has routed, I think it's the case that there is no close combat going on, so you don't conform. Hence I think you can actually direct the routers in this way; which I've played wrong before.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:35 am
by grahambriggs
zoltan wrote:Perhaps you could go back to basics please?
1. Can a BG declare a charge on a routing enemy BG?
2. If the answer to Q1 is "yes", what are the mechanics of resolving the impact, combat and joint action phases?
there's a bit in the Impact section which specifically deals with how charging routers works.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:44 am
by philqw78
So we can shepherd routers in the direction of charge then. Brilliant!
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:26 am
by petedalby
So we can shepherd routers in the direction of charge then. Brilliant!
Always have been able to.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:36 pm
by zoltan
Back to the mechanics then....
During the Impact Phase I charge routers and make contact with them on an angle (in other words the front corner, not the front edge, of my base is the first thing to touch the routers). Nothing more happens until the JAP (i.e. my chargers don't line up because no close combat will be fought). In the JAP, routers make a rout move directly away from the enemy in contact. This causes them to wheel to be parallel with the front edge of my (former) chargers.
Re: Conforming to routers
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:31 am
by petedalby
Sounds about right.