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Attack! Devizes - 19th/20th July 2014 - A Time of Rebellion
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:45 am
by rbodleyscott
I am proposing the following theme for Attack! in July, but I would welcome (helpful) comments.
900 points Doubles.
Theme: "A Time of Rebellion"
Any army 1642-1660 from any of the army list books, with the following additional restrictions.
i. No heavily armoured mounted troops permitted.
ii. Army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
iii. Army must include at least 6 bases of foot battle troops for each base of medium or heavy artillery.
The aim of the date period is to allow Determined Horse a good runout, to stick with traditional 2 pike, 4 shot foot BGs, and to exclude any detached bayonet shenanigans. However, I have not excluded eastern and exotic armies.
Hopefully this will provide an interesting mix of armies, different from previous themes.
If anyone can see any loophole in the above that allows any particular army list a special advantage, please could you point it out.
Richard
Edited in the light of comments below.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:57 am
by kevinj
I would suggest that the 2 BGs of foot battle troops should be at least 6 bases just in case any devious person thinks of using Commanded Shot for the purpose.
Since I thought of that, does that make me really devious?
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:34 am
by rbodleyscott
kevinj wrote:I would suggest that the 2 BGs of foot battle troops should be at least 6 bases just in case any devious person thinks of using Commanded Shot for the purpose.
Since I thought of that, does that make me really devious?
No, it just means I was knackered when I thought out the theme last night after getting back from Burton. Congrats on your triumph.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:41 pm
by alasdair2204
rbodleyscott wrote:I am proposing the following theme for Attack! in July, but I would welcome (helpful) comments.
Any army 1642-1660.
No heavily armoured mounted troops permitted.
Army must include at least 16 bases of mounted battle troops.
Army must include at least 12 bases of foot battle troops for each BG of medium or heavy artillery.
The aim of the date period is to allow Determined Horse a good runout, to stick with traditional 2 pike, 4 shot foot BGs, and to exclude any detached bayonet shenanigans. However, I have not excluded eastern and exotic armies.
Hopefully this will provide an interesting mix of armies, different from previous themes.
If anyone can see any loophole in the above that allows any particular army list a special advantage, please could you point it out.
Richard
A dream come true
can't wait
Alasdair
Now to work out how many cavalry I can get for 900 points
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:13 am
by viking123
Do we know the dates for Attack! yet?
Bob
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:18 am
by daveallen
Not so much an objection as an observation:
Those of us who like to take a lot of foot are forced to have a high minimum of horse. Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
How about a minimum of 24 bases of M/HF? That way everyone is forced to waste points on troops they don't want.
Dave
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:40 am
by kevinj
Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:30 pm
by rbodleyscott
kevinj wrote:Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
As Kevin says, he is given free rein as long as he is willing to do without artillery.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:10 pm
by daveallen
kevinj wrote:Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
He could do without artillery, or take one bg of four and just twelve bases of foot.
So cavalry armies can pick and choose, but foot armies are weighed down with numerous mounted toffs!
Seems fair to me...
Dave
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:31 pm
by madaxeman
daveallen wrote:
He could do without artillery, or take one bg of four and just twelve bases of foot.
Dave
Is this Dave starting a "what previously unknown but actually a hidden tiger sort of list has this seemingly bizzarre and almost unimaginably unusual combination of troops"? quiz?
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:52 pm
by rbodleyscott
daveallen wrote:He could ... take one bg of four [artillery] and just twelve bases of foot.
Good point.
OK. So I have changed it to "Army must include at least 6 bases of foot battle troops for each base of medium or heavy artillery."
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:15 pm
by alasdair2204
Feeling picked on again
Alasdair
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:27 pm
by daveallen
alasdair2204 wrote:Feeling picked on again
Yes I am!
Dave
How about:
Armies must have at least whichever is the lesser of the maximum amount of mounted battle troops from their core list or 16.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:41 am
by madaxeman
alasdair2204 wrote:Feeling picked on again
Alasdair
Go on then, what's the list with the 4-pack heavy guns and almost no compulsory foote you were looking at ?
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:29 am
by daveallen
There are at least four.
Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...
Dave
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:34 am
by nikgaukroger
daveallen wrote:There are at least four.
Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...
Dave
Yes you would have.
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:04 pm
by madaxeman
daveallen wrote:There are at least four.
Wouldn't have moaned if there weren't any...
Dave
At a guess, 2 Ottomans... and ... ?
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:46 am
by daveallen
Later Ottoman, Later Russian, Moghul & Early Louis XIV are all available between 1642 and 1660.
Sadly, the new restrictions might make them too "footy."
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:57 pm
by alasdair2204
rbodleyscott wrote:kevinj wrote:Yet the cavalry king is given free rein
Except that you have to take 4 BGs of Foot in order to have 2 BGs of artillery.
As Kevin says, he is given free rein as long as he is willing to do without artillery.
My doubles rules are simple, if with Paddy must have artillery or he gets upset, if without Paddy no artillery
cheers
Alasdair
Re: Attack! Devizes - proposed theme - not yet finalised
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:27 am
by alasdair2204
Army sorted
just getting last couple of units painted
cheers
Alasdair