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Upgrading of Axis Minors

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:41 pm
by syagrius
Does the Romanian, Hungarians share the same tech tree of Germany or of Italy? I noticed we can upgrade them however they dont have any research, so I assume they are on par with Germany?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:46 pm
by vypuero
They are all 2 levels lower than Germany, so for instance if Germany has level 4, they can get level 2.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:54 pm
by syagrius
Ahh..ok nice. Its true that they never managed to have the same quality equipment as the Germans. You guys tought about everything :wink: Thanks Vyp.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:00 pm
by Redpossum
Yes, but there's some question whether upgrading minors is an effective use of always-scarce Axis resources.

If one does invest the Axis production in upgrading the minors, and they are damaged, does one then invest Axis production and manpower in repairing them?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:11 pm
by firepowerjohan
Countries have their own manpower and that is also one reason we do not want the minors having too high tech (hence -2) since they then become a life line that can be used to prevent German manpoer shortage.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:47 pm
by vypuero
Actually a really cool thing is that because of manpower limits and upgrades - it is wise NOT to buy too many units, but enough that you will have money to keep them upgraded. It doesnt cost MP to upgrade (I think?) - I like to upgrade when a unit has lower strength, because then I can do repairs next turn and give it an extra rest turn to regain effectiveness, which it loses during upgrade.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:49 pm
by davetheroad
just discovered that repairing minor allies does not cost any manpower points, only pp

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:45 am
by Redpossum
Oho!~

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:12 am
by vypuero
It costs the minor nation's manpower - use enough and you will get the low manpower warning(s).

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:27 am
by davetheroad
What are minor nations manpowr limits?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:28 pm
by syagrius
I think its worthwile to upgrade minors because on the Eastern front, I dont' have enough of german units to cover the whole front! All the southern part of the front is covered by Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians and Italians. If someone managed to cover the whole front with German units he must play with "Advantage Axis" set on!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:55 pm
by vypuero
I used the same formula for them based on their population figures at the start of the war. I wouldn't suggest worrying much about it unless you get the warning. Not much you can do about it anyway.

I like to use the minors to garrison all my conquests as I push forward.