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Decisive Victory - Campaign missions
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:04 am
by mllange
Playing through the '39 Campaign again to help with final testing (yeah right, I'm just enjoying myself, who am I kidding?) Anyway, playing the low countries mission (Fall Gelb?) and I took all objectives on turn 17 of 25. The objective screen said I needed to 'Capture all objectives with at least 9 turns remaining' for a Decisive Victory, and yet I was awarded one upon completion of the turn, which by my count leaves only 8 turns remaining. Is this a script or text error, or are there other qualifications beyond taking the objectives to obtain a Decisive Victory, such as being utterly awesome? (as I am!)

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:08 am
by El_Condoro
It might be a minor point but I feel victories like these should be stated as 'Take all objectives before Turn xx'. I find myself doing math every turn (24 - 9 = ...counts fingers... 15, and it's Turn 12, so I have 3 turns to go) and it's unnecessary if the victory conditions were expressed differently.
Re: Decisive Victory - Campaign missions
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:19 am
by AgentX
mllange wrote:Playing through the '39 Campaign again to help with final testing (yeah right, I'm just enjoying myself, who am I kidding?) Anyway, playing the low countries mission (Fall Gelb?) and I took all objectives on turn 17 of 25. The objective screen said I needed to 'Capture all objectives with at least 9 turns remaining' for a Decisive Victory, and yet I was awarded one upon completion of the turn, which by my count leaves only 8 turns remaining. Is this a script or text error, or are there other qualifications beyond taking the objectives to obtain a Decisive Victory, such as being utterly awesome? (as I am!)

Math can be a tricky thing. You can't just subtract the numbers because then you're not including your current turn. Count it out: 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. See, there are nine turns remaining. It can be confusing, so I think it should point it out better like El_Condoro stated. Something like: Current Turn 17 of 25, 9 turns remaining and final turn for Decisive Victory.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:23 am
by Rudankort
El_Condoro wrote:It might be a minor point but I feel victories like these should be stated as 'Take all objectives before Turn xx'. I find myself doing math every turn (24 - 9 = ...counts fingers... 15, and it's Turn 12, so I have 3 turns to go) and it's unnecessary if the victory conditions were expressed differently.
The reason why we did not do this is that on some difficulty levels turn count is different from default, but the text should still be valid.
Re: Decisive Victory - Campaign missions
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:43 am
by mllange
AgentX wrote:mllange wrote:Playing through the '39 Campaign again to help with final testing (yeah right, I'm just enjoying myself, who am I kidding?) Anyway, playing the low countries mission (Fall Gelb?) and I took all objectives on turn 17 of 25. The objective screen said I needed to 'Capture all objectives with at least 9 turns remaining' for a Decisive Victory, and yet I was awarded one upon completion of the turn, which by my count leaves only 8 turns remaining. Is this a script or text error, or are there other qualifications beyond taking the objectives to obtain a Decisive Victory, such as being utterly awesome? (as I am!)

Math can be a tricky thing. You can't just subtract the numbers because then you're not including your current turn. Count it out: 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. See, there are nine turns remaining. It can be confusing, so I think it should point it out better like El_Condoro stated. Something like: Current Turn 17 of 25, 9 turns remaining and final turn for Decisive Victory.
I did understand this, however my confusions results from the fact that I completed the objectives
during turn 17, meaning I did not have 9 turns remaining (to play at least). Once clicking 'end turn' I could only had 8 turns remaining, not 9, and the Decisive Victory message doesn't display until the beginning of the next game turn. I like El_Condoro's suggestion, or at least a clarification of the turns remaining - something.
Re: Decisive Victory - Campaign missions
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:01 am
by AgentX
mllange wrote:I did understand this, however my confusions results from the fact that I completed the objectives during turn 17, meaning I did not have 9 turns remaining (to play at least). Once clicking 'end turn' I could only had 8 turns remaining, not 9, and the Decisive Victory message doesn't display until the beginning of the next game turn. I like El_Condoro's suggestion, or at least a clarification of the turns remaining - something.
Yes true, but the Computer AI still has 9 turns remaining. I believe that's what matters. You are right about it being a bit confusing. A little clarification of when you're on the final turn for a Decisive Victory would help.