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Leader Icon

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:43 pm
by palli99
Hi, I have been playing the game extensively and the only thing I miss is a small icon on the unit icon that informs me if the unit has a leader, similar to PG2. I don´t know if this has been asked before but it really would help.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:12 pm
by mllange
I think I remember a similar request a while back on the forums, hopefully it caught someone's attention because this would be a great feature.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:34 pm
by lordzimoa
It is already in the game, medal and hero icons are displaced on the unit icons when you toggle the Unit List on the main UI or use the F6 hotkey.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:53 pm
by palli99
Yes I know it is in the unit list. But I was thinking more like PG2 where the icon got a portrait of a leader in the lower right corner. That way you knew the unit was valuable at a glance and could better implement strategy on the map. Wouldn´t have to be fancy, just a small icon within a icon. Then I could alt-click or look at the unit list to see what bonuses the unit had. Maybe I´m nitpicking but this is the only thing I find is missing in a otherwise excellent game.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:44 pm
by Kerensky
The problem is that the amount of information on the map for each unit is already quite extensive.

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Can move, can shoot, city flag, strength plate, fuel condition, ammo condition.

However I do completely agree that leader representation needs to be included in that image, but it's a question of 'where' and will it looks good?

This is an early BETA example that may be a nice solution. Notice the 109 with the colored nose, or the tanks with little commanders poking out of them.
(Can you believe the game used to look like this, you new guys are so spoiled!)

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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:43 am
by palli99
I like it! Gives the leader units some personality and is easily distinguishable from the other units.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:44 am
by Panzer3L
palli99 wrote:Yes I know it is in the unit list. But I was thinking more like PG2 where the icon got a portrait of a leader in the lower right corner. That way you knew the unit was valuable at a glance and could better implement strategy on the map. Wouldn´t have to be fancy, just a small icon within a icon. Then I could alt-click or look at the unit list to see what bonuses the unit had. Maybe I´m nitpicking but this is the only thing I find is missing in a otherwise excellent game.
Fully agree.
Only a minor feature but still kinda "must have feature".

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:58 am
by Panzer3L
Kerensky wrote:The problem is that the amount of information on the map for each unit is already quite extensive.

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Theres room to the left of the strenght indicator.
A Balkenkreuz for Axis and a Star for Allies would be nice,u know just like PG2 had it.
It will overlap a bit with the flag when a unit is in a city but i wouldn't mind as long it doesen't cover more than 40% of the flag.

Kerensky wrote:This is an early BETA example that may be a nice solution. Notice the 109 with the colored nose, or the tanks with little commanders poking out of them.
(Can you believe the game used to look like this, you new guys are so spoiled!)

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I don't realy like this way.Those commanders looking out of the tank will be hard to see in forrests and such.
Infantry is already hard to see in forests when unitglow is turned off.
And with unitglow on things look kinda unatural and ...not good.

2cents

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:08 am
by El_Condoro
What about a border around the nation flag? Just a couple or few pixels wide and of a colour that stands out from all the terrain features that might be behind. White, yellow...

PG2 had the leader indicator but it didn't have the ammo/fuel indicator (you had to right-click for those), so space is a premium and it needs to avoid 'busy-ness'.

Razz's idea below is even better IMO. All the relevant unit information, especially range which is missing now, could be there along with the leader info. That bottom right corner is under-utilised.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:09 am
by Razz1
I think the unit information panel should automatically pop up every time you click on a unit.

It should appear on the right bottom menu.

Plenty of space there.

Get rid of all this, alt click stuff.

Then, below this we can see the leader menu.

Plenty of room there.

No room? Get rid of strategic map. Use hot key for it to come up.