15 March 44 bc sad day
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:03 am
The Tyrant Gauis Julius Ceasar was assassinated today in the Senate ... Lets all morn the death of a tyrant.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:05 am
Dictator, not tyrant
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:20 am
One mans Tyrant is another mans Dear Leader
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:31 am
Hehehe actually also Imperator and Divus
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:54 pm
For some Senators he was a Tyrant just ask Catonikgaukroger wrote:Dictator, not tyrant
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:29 pm
... but tyrant here is an opinion, Dictator an office & title of stateJilu wrote:For some Senators he was a Tyrant just ask Catonikgaukroger wrote:Dictator, not tyrant
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:27 pm
What is interesting is how the terms cahgned in the consciousness.
Today. Brutus is popularly a traitor to a friend. Someone to be reviled.
Julius Caesar seems the popular guy played by all the great actors and you want to be a caesar. It was applied to MacArthur with some admiration as well as arrogance. It still means arrogant, but not necessarily bad.
Compared to 18th centruy where the conspirators were the friends of liberty and agains the evils of empire.
Of course shakespeare rather favored Julius and Anthony.
Today. Brutus is popularly a traitor to a friend. Someone to be reviled.
Julius Caesar seems the popular guy played by all the great actors and you want to be a caesar. It was applied to MacArthur with some admiration as well as arrogance. It still means arrogant, but not necessarily bad.
Compared to 18th centruy where the conspirators were the friends of liberty and agains the evils of empire.
Of course shakespeare rather favored Julius and Anthony.
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:30 pm
Tyrant had a completely different meaning to the Romans than our understanding.philqw78 wrote:One mans Tyrant is another mans Dear Leader
was certainly less perjorative. even positive. in certain circumstances.
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:08 pm
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:57 am
While I agree different. You have to sort out when it was a title in non-roman lands. I think as a "description" it is not a positive to Romans, but perhaps more kindlly thatn King.davesaunders23 wrote:Tyrant had a completely different meaning to the Romans than our understanding.philqw78 wrote:One mans Tyrant is another mans Dear Leader
was certainly less perjorative. even positive. in certain circumstances.
I think to Romans its more a matter of the office of Dictator was an office rather than a pejorative. I think
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:18 am
A tyrant (Greek τύραννος, tyrannos) is one who illegally seizes and controls a governmental power in a polis.
Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, "one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics -- against his own people as well as others".
Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, "one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics -- against his own people as well as others".
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:36 am
So don't I.hazelbark wrote:While I agree different.