Slitherine

The Median cavalry is listed as heavy armored and is treated as such in melee, but moves a normal cavalry not as cataphracts. In the TT lists, these are normal armored cavalry. Oddly, in the TT lists there are no cataphracts for the Persians, but I recall there were thousands at Guagamela.

Deeter

deeter wrote:The Median cavalry is listed as heavy armored and is treated as such in melee, but moves a normal cavalry not as cataphracts. In the TT lists, these are normal armored cavalry. Oddly, in the TT lists there are no cataphracts for the Persians, but I recall there were thousands at Guagamela.

Deeter

The TT Late Achaemenid list qualifies the Saka and Bactrians as armoured cavalry rather than as heavily armoured cataphracts. Not entirely sure how the decision was made.

Chris

Going through the Persian lists, a c and e charge 18 points for Median cavalry, but 12 points for b and d although the stats don't change in any list. Clearly these cavalry are very confused, fighing like cats but moving like cav with varying point values throughout.

Deeter

P.S. Hmm, fight like cats, move like cav and all for only 12 points? I'll be the first to take these after the evil Bosporan cav.

When posting a message to the Beta Forum can you state the version you are using: Its to the bottom left of the screen on loading the game. The current version is 1.2.10. Thanks Keith

With 1.2.10 the problem is still there with Persia (b) and (e).

Deeter

batesmotel wrote:

deeter wrote:The Median cavalry is listed as heavy armored and is treated as such in melee, but moves a normal cavalry not as cataphracts. In the TT lists, these are normal armored cavalry. Oddly, in the TT lists there are no cataphracts for the Persians, but I recall there were thousands at Guagamela.

Deeter

The TT Late Achaemenid list qualifies the Saka and Bactrians as armoured cavalry rather than as heavily armoured cataphracts. Not entirely sure how the decision was made.

Chris

They did have some horse armour, but the armour for horse and man was not complete enough to qualify as cataphracts under the rules. True cataphracts had not been invented at that date - they were invented in the following century - probably the Saka were the first to use them, at least in the west.

Obviously all troops have to be slotted into the 4 available armour categories, so that there is going to be a fair variation within each grade. We have to have a cut off point somewhere, and the cavalry at Guagemela don't quite make the Heavily Armoured grade.

The errors in the early list are fixed ready for 1.2.11 and getting ready to add the later Persians and Hellenistics to the update Keith