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Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:12 pm
by rbodleyscott
We still have the Cossack cavalry classified differently in different lists.

Are we near a decision on them?

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:15 pm
by nikgaukroger
rbodleyscott wrote:We still have the Cossack cavalry classified differently in different lists.

Are we near a decision on them?

Which lists were you thinking of - some differences may be deliberate, others not ...

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:35 pm
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:We still have the Cossack cavalry classified differently in different lists.

Are we near a decision on them?

Which lists were you thinking of - some differences may be deliberate, others not ...
Cossacks
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Early Russian

to name but three.

If the differences are deliberate, they need to be justified in the troop notes.

Also can we make a decision on Bow*, Light Lancers, Swordsmen classification. I am inclined not to do it, as there is no equivalent for the Carbine boys.

The annoying thing is that, had we realised about the Cavalry Pistol dice thing, we could have had Border Reiver Cavalry as Pistol, Light Lancers, Swordsmen and they would have shot as if Pistol*. Doh.

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:01 pm
by nikgaukroger
rbodleyscott wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:We still have the Cossack cavalry classified differently in different lists.

Are we near a decision on them?

Which lists were you thinking of - some differences may be deliberate, others not ...
Cossacks
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Early Russian

to name but three.

If the differences are deliberate, they need to be justified in the troop notes.
Well the Russian ones are correct in that they match the option available to the Cossacks in their own list at the dates the Russian list covers.

Poles may well be different - I'll look into it.

Also can we make a decision on Bow*, Light Lancers, Swordsmen classification. I am inclined not to do it, as there is no equivalent for the Carbine boys.
A reasonable point IMO. In which case we have a choice of going with no Bow* or, I suppose, having a Carbine, Swordsmen option as well as Light Lancers, Swordsmen/Pistol option for the Cv types.

The annoying thing is that, had we realised about the Cavalry Pistol dice thing, we could have had Border Reiver Cavalry as Pistol, Light Lancers, Swordsmen and they would have shot as if Pistol*. Doh.
You mentioned previously about expecting a draft of T&T back - is there an opportunity to change them, or would it be too messy and risk introducing errors?

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:05 pm
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:
The annoying thing is that, had we realised about the Cavalry Pistol dice thing, we could have had Border Reiver Cavalry as Pistol, Light Lancers, Swordsmen and they would have shot as if Pistol*. Doh.
You mentioned previously about expecting a draft of T&T back - is there an opportunity to change them, or would it be too messy and risk introducing errors?
Well then there is still the issue of the Crossbow ones getting 3 dice per 4 bases as well as full Lancers and Swordsmen capability, so I think we should probably stick with what we have.

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:06 pm
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:A reasonable point IMO. In which case we have a choice of going with no Bow* or, I suppose, having a Carbine, Swordsmen option as well as Light Lancers, Swordsmen/Pistol option for the Cv types.
That would be acceptable IMO.

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:07 pm
by nikgaukroger
rbodleyscott wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:
The annoying thing is that, had we realised about the Cavalry Pistol dice thing, we could have had Border Reiver Cavalry as Pistol, Light Lancers, Swordsmen and they would have shot as if Pistol*. Doh.
You mentioned previously about expecting a draft of T&T back - is there an opportunity to change them, or would it be too messy and risk introducing errors?
Well then there is still the issue of the Crossbow ones getting 3 dice per 4 bases as well as full Lancers and Swordsmen capability, so I think we should probably stick with what we have.

No argument from me on that :D

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 2:30 pm
by nikgaukroger
nikgaukroger wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:
Cossacks
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
Early Russian

to name but three.

If the differences are deliberate, they need to be justified in the troop notes.
Well the Russian ones are correct in that they match the option available to the Cossacks in their own list at the dates the Russian list covers.

Poles may well be different - I'll look into it.

OK, looked into it.

The Polish Cossacks were not the same as the ones covered by the Cossack list - they shared the name. The Polish spelling would be Kozak (sing) or Kozacy (pl) so perhaps we should use that? The Polish ones adopted firearms when mounted quicker than the others.

Do you want me to add something to the list notes next time I have a full document, or do you want to do it?

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:16 pm
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:Do you want me to add something to the list notes next time I have a full document?
Yes. (You have the document now I think)

Re: Cossack cavalry

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:20 pm
by nikgaukroger
rbodleyscott wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:Do you want me to add something to the list notes next time I have a full document?
Yes. (You have the document now I think)
I do and have done.