Slitherine

Florentine monster

This is a 800 (787) point Florentine army. It has 28 BG equivalents.

3 x TC
1 x 4 Elmeti
4 x 4 mounted crossbowmen
1 x 4 mounted arquebusiers
1 x 14 unarmoured Landsknecht pikemen (Grand Battle Group)
6 x 14 unarmoured poor Militia pikemen (Grand Battle Groups)
2 x 6 poor Militia crossbowmen
2 x 6 Mercenary crossbowmen
2 x 2 Light artillery
2 x 6 Arquebusiers

Is this a problem?

Making the militia pikes 10-12 bases so they cannot have GBGs would help a little.

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Before I forget, there is a typo in the Milanese sub-section - "elemeti" instead of "elmeti".

rbodleyscott wrote:Florentine monster

This is a 800 (787) point Florentine army. It has 28 BG equivalents.

3 x TC
1 x 4 Elmeti
4 x 4 mounted crossbowmen
1 x 4 mounted arquebusiers
1 x 14 unarmoured Landsknecht pikemen (Grand Battle Group)
6 x 14 unarmoured poor Militia pikemen (Grand Battle Groups)
2 x 6 poor Militia crossbowmen
2 x 6 Mercenary crossbowmen
2 x 2 Light artillery
2 x 6 Arquebusiers

Is this a problem?

Making the militia pikes 10-12 bases so they cannot have GBGs would help a little.

I take it the BG number worries you?

No reason why we couldn't have 10-12 base BGs - we have them in the Peasant Wars list because Karsten felt that GBGs was too good.

Actually thinking about it, his issue was support and, IIRC, a 10-12 base BG of pike will still count as a keil and so be supported unless it has troops to its rear.

Before I forget, there is a typo in the Milanese sub-section - "elemeti" instead of "elmeti".

Sorted.

rbodleyscott wrote:Florentine monster


1 x 4 Elmeti
4 x 4 mounted crossbowmen
1 x 4 mounted arquebusiers

This bit reminds me I was considering saying for the Italian States lists that the number of LH BGs cannot exceed the number of Elmeti BGs - whilst some LH were hired out side of the condotta lances, most came associated with them at least and in smaller numbers.

nikgaukroger wrote:

rbodleyscott wrote:Florentine monster


1 x 4 Elmeti
4 x 4 mounted crossbowmen
1 x 4 mounted arquebusiers

This bit reminds me I was considering saying for the Italian States lists that the number of LH BGs cannot exceed the number of Elmeti BGs - whilst some LH were hired out side of the condotta lances, most came associated with them at least and in smaller numbers.

Fully agree. It's not realistic to be able to field far more LH than Elmeti.

rbodleyscott wrote:Florentine monster

Before I forget, there is a typo in the Milanese sub-section - "elemeti" instead of "elmeti".

I also spotted a typo in the Italian States list. 'Sword and Bucklemen' should be 'Sword and Bucklermen'