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Chariots armour

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:27 am
by wkeyser
Hi all
We are playing a series of games with Hitites and New Kingdom Eygptians. My question is about Chariots, what armour if any are they considered to have. And are chariots concidered to be mounted troops. This will apply to the fall back after attacking infantry if they remain steady? It will also apply to POA as far as mounted defeating MI or LI?

Thanks
William

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:38 am
by aventine
Better armour does not count against El, Chariots, Art. Bwgs.

They are mounted.

Cheers
Keith

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:55 am
by philqw78
Armour has no effect in hand to hand combats involving chariots, or elephants. They are never better or worse armoured than their opponents.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:14 am
by rbodleyscott
We made a design decision not to differentiate chariot armour. Most of them were in fact fairly well armoured, but they were a complex system and not really directly comparable to other troop types. We deemed that going into detail on chariot armour would give spurious detail that would not add to the accuracy of the simulation.

Thus they don't get armour advantage against anything, and nothing gets armour advantage against them.

And yes, they do count as mounted troops. (See the The Basics section of the rules).

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:35 am
by wkeyser
Thanks for the quick answere kind of what we thought. I actualy like the feel of the chariots, not cav but fast moving and can be hard hitting. I also like the evade with my new kingdom lt chariots and fire at the enemy chariots if I am lucky I will fragment!.

Thanks and really looking forward to the Renaisance version, love the Italian Wars.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:55 pm
by kal5056
I don't think LI take a minus for lossing to mounted as they are already disadvantaged by the loss of dice.
It only MI in the charge and on CT's after lossing melles that take a minus.

Is this correct?

Gino
SMAC...ABB

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:10 am
by batesmotel
kal5056 wrote:I don't think LI take a minus for lossing to mounted as they are already disadvantaged by the loss of dice.
It only MI in the charge and on CT's after lossing melles that take a minus.

Is this correct?

Gino
SMAC...ABB
The modifier in the chart is only for MF.

Chris

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:40 pm
by marioslaz
Impact: Mounted (Except Elephants or scythed chariots) get a +POA in open against both MF and LF
CT: only MF get a -1 for losing close combat against mounted (and against HF)