Slitherine

Hi all,

does anyone know any lists that have "good" numbers of Superior Bow* Foot?

tks

Daz

Tibetans should, but don't

hi to all

Japan (samurai)
sctos (highlanders)

jf

I don't think many (actually any as yet) have superior bow* foot.

Samurai and Highlanders have lots of average ones.

There are a fair few bow* MF armies in Blood and Gold

hammy wrote:
There are a fair few bow* MF armies in Blood and Gold

Assuming little variance in the Tupi list I'm looking forward to fielding nearly 100 bases of Bow*

Steve P

stenic wrote:Assuming little variance in the Tupi list I'm looking forward to fielding nearly 100 bases of Bow*

Steve P

Seconded but it's actually their heavy weapons that excite me.

carlos wrote:Seconded but it's actually their heavy weapons that excite me.

Perv

So what do the Tupi get apart from loads of bw* stuff ?

Scrumpy wrote:So what do the Tupi get apart from loads of bw* stuff ?

Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Steve P

stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Protected??? With what?

carlos wrote:

stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Protected??? With what?

Grading is all relative to historical opponents, and the Tupi were known for being thick-skinned - or at least, anyone who used them in DBM had to be thick skinned to take dogs abuse they would usually get from other players for using such a resolutely cheesy army, usually with totally inappropriate figures as well.

carlos wrote:

stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Protected??? With what?

You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields

grahambriggs wrote:You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields

If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

DavidT wrote:

grahambriggs wrote:You can have them either unprotected or protected. The latter being for those tribes who used big shields

If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

The shields were for protection from enemy shooting. Presumably they dropped them or slung them on their backs when in melee or themselves shooting.

Clearly they were of limited value, otherwise all the Tupi tribes would have used them.

(BTW Anglo-Danish huscarles fought with two-handed axes, but also carried large shields, presumably for the same reason).

DavidT wrote:If they have a big shield, how can they have a Heavy Weapon - I thought that Heavy Weapons were Rhomphaia, pole arms, two handed swords etc. all of which would require two hands to wield. Therefore surely those with big shields would have fought more like Swordsmen?

They don't need the shield when they are fighting hand to hand because they know the POA for the shield doesn't make any difference so they can throw it behind them.

They don't need the shield when they are fighting hand to hand because they know the POA for the shield doesn't make any difference so they can throw it behind them.

Unless they're fighting unprotected non-heavy weapon armed enemies

carlos wrote:

stenic wrote:Not sure, RBS kindly confirmed that the majority are MF, ave, prot, Undr,Bow*, Hvy Wpn. I would imagine there are a few LF with javelin or bow, or the equivalent of blow-pipes and that's probably it unless a few can be superior. The DBM artillery option is probably too late for the list dates.

Protected??? With what?

Sheaths.

Steve P