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Lysimachos wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:50 am As as I understand the mechanism of the Squads.cvs file, it shouldn't be here that the problem can be solved.

There must be some other file which determines the effects of musket fire ...

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:05 am Yet it works for me : when I change "Musket" to Blue_Musketeers from 100 to 150, Casualties goes from 25-75 to 36-111.

However, now that I re-read your OP, I am not sure I understand what you wish.

Cronos09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:15 am
As for me I do not quite understand the problem with musket fire.
All scripts related to shooting and firing damage are written in files Shooting.BSF and Shooting_Logic.BSF. You already was changing the artillery damage in Shooting_Logic.BSF. Next script block in FUNCTION CalculateShootingDamage() is responsible for the other firing damage (incl. musket fire). Below in this function takes into account the following modifiers: full or half volley, movement, cover and morale. Thу last modifier uses FUNCTION GetMoraleDisorderModifier() which takes into account Steady, Disrupted or Fragmented unit state (see CombatTools.BSF).
If you would like to reduce forcedly the musket damage in each several turns, you should use Ammunition scripts like in FoG2: eg. full musket damage for the first 5 turns of shooting, 2/3 damage for the next 5 tuns and the rest turns - 1/2 musket damage or something like this.

Lysimachos wrote:

Athos1660 wrote: Yet it works for me : when I change "Musket" to Blue_Musketeers from 100 to 150, Casualties goes from 25-75 to 36-111.
(...)

You're right mate, but in this way you substantially make 100 men to use 150 muskets, which is quite unrealistic (though this could be a fallback solution if it isn't possible to do otherwise).

Lysimachos wrote: Moreover, my intent wasn't that of merely enhancing the fire power of some units but to decrease the range of probabilities of the outcome of the salvo (i.e., for example, to have casualties for superior units going from 70 to 90 instead from 36 to 111 and for average units from 40 to 60 instead from 25 to 75).

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:01 pm
It could also be interpreted as :
(1) the same number of Blue_Musketeers of the 18th century are able to cause 36/25, that is about 45% more casulaties than the Blue_Musketeers of the 17th, thanks to their new equipment, their better training, their new tactics, which might be realistic (?). Of course, 150 is en example. It could be less effective with 110, 120 or, on the contrary, even 80...

or

(2) A 80 Blue_Musketeers is say 80% as effective as a 100 Blue_Musketeers.

Lysimachos wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 12:24 pm
Moreover, my intent wasn't that of merely enhancing the fire power of some units but to decrease the range of probabilities of the outcome of the salvo (i.e., for example, to have casualties for superior units going from 70 to 90 instead from 36 to 111 and for average units from 40 to 60 instead from 25 to 75).

			// Note that the adjustments below don't work identically to POAs as they occur after the other POAs have been taken into account

			// Adjust for quality
			POA = GetQuality(me) - 100; // Standard quality is 100. Only adjust POA for quality above or below 100.
			POA /= 2;  // 200 quality (+100 above average) is worth +50 POA
			total_modifier = AdjustedShootingPercent(total_modifier, POA);

Cronos09 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 6:46 pm

Lysimachos wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 12:24 pm
Moreover, my intent wasn't that of merely enhancing the fire power of some units but to decrease the range of probabilities of the outcome of the salvo (i.e., for example, to have casualties for superior units going from 70 to 90 instead from 36 to 111 and for average units from 40 to 60 instead from 25 to 75).

Yes, there is the shooting adjustment for an unit quality - FUNCTION GetShootingWeaponModifier in CombatTools.BSF:

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			// Note that the adjustments below don't work identically to POAs as they occur after the other POAs have been taken into account

			// Adjust for quality
			POA = GetQuality(me) - 100; // Standard quality is 100. Only adjust POA for quality above or below 100.
			POA /= 2;  // 200 quality (+100 above average) is worth +50 POA
			total_modifier = AdjustedShootingPercent(total_modifier, POA);

You can add the same script above where 'Musket' is scripted and play with various value.

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 4:31 pm I don't understand what you mean.

Lysimachos wrote: ↑Mon Dec 29, 2025 7:13 pm
In other words, If I would like to have that:
- raw units fire 30% less effectively than average units,
- below average units fire 15% less effectively than average units,
- above average units fire 15% more effectively than average units,
- superior units fire 30% more effectively than average units,
how should I write the script?

Lysimachos wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 9:36 am The big problem is that, under musket fire, superior units tend to get disrupted or fragmented quite in the same manner as raw or below average units, which is unhistorical.

While decreasing the fire power of lesser units it's possible to make superior and above average units less prone to this kind of fragility

Lysimachos wrote: The big problem is that, under musket fire, superior units tend to get disrupted or fragmented quite in the same manner as raw or below average units, which is unhistorical.

Lysimachos wrote: While decreasing the fire power of lesser units it's possible to make superior and above average units less prone to this kind of fragility