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				Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:16 pm
				by scorehouse
				this Hero Trait seems to pop up frequently. what unit should it be attached to for the most effectiveness?
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:54 pm
				by Grondel
				scorehouse wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:16 pm
this Hero Trait seems to pop up frequently. what unit should it be attached to for the most effectiveness?
 
Pair it with aim on a fighter is a good combo.
sers,
Thomas
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:34 pm
				by milliethedog
				Hi, do you mean Double attack? or is this a new hero from a Mod? if it is double attack i always pair with a heavy artillery
unit as you will get far more use from it than the short term gain on a fighter. Just my 2p worth.
Martin.
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:23 pm
				by robman
				If you mean Double Attack, tactical bomber, ideally combined with Lightning Attack and Double Move.
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:58 am
				by VirgilInTheSKY
				milliethedog wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:34 pm
Hi, do you mean Double attack? or is this a new hero from a Mod? if it is double attack i always pair with a heavy artillery
unit as you will get far more use from it than the short term gain on a fighter. Just my 2p worth.
Martin.
 
Double Mass Attack hero makes a unit provides 2x bonus for Mass Attack effect, that is, when another unit is attacking an adjacent enemy when this unit still has an attack action point. It's always been there.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:41 pm
				by DefiantXYX
				
Really? Could swear I have never had this hero.
I tought this trait is coming with the new DLC, I think I saw it on a screenshot.
Better that nothing in the first years of war, I would recycle that hero later.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:53 pm
				by Tassadar
				DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:41 pm
Really? Could swear I have never had this hero.
 
It's always been there, just not possible to normally get via random hero pool, same as All-Terrain Entrenchment, Ambusher, Amphibious, City Fighter, Expert Recon, Fast Entrenchment, Fast Retreat, Half-Track Support, Ignore Mass Attack, Last Stand, No Retreat, On the Roll (after an old patch), Organized Landing, Precision Weapon, Rapid Fire 2x (again after patch), Safe Transit, Skilled Recon, Smart Entrenchment, Splitter and probably some more I forgot to mention. 
These can sometimes be added in custom heroes (and a few of these I'm sure you'll remember from Axis Operations or other campaigns) or can exist in mods, but cannot be randomly acquired. That's probably since a lot of these effects are very minor compared to other things that give a more meaningful bonus. Still I like these small bonuses such heroes give and I think they could and should be utilized a lot more.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:39 pm
				by scorehouse
				maybe its popping up because of a Mod. I don't care< I'm not a "purists" when it comes to Heroes. my question was more along the lines should Double Mass be put on say an Infantry unit  to help attack Forts, Entrenched Cities, Etc, or is it just  an extra addition to put on any unit so that unit can pile on whenever the situation occurs?
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:21 am
				by VirgilInTheSKY
				scorehouse wrote: ↑Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:39 pm
maybe its popping up because of a Mod. I don't care< I'm not a "purists" when it comes to Heroes. my question was more along the lines should Double Mass be put on say an Infantry unit  to help attack Forts, Entrenched Cities, Etc, or is it just  an extra addition to put on any unit so that unit can pile on whenever the situation occurs?
 
Anything that fights adjacent to the enemy should work. Infantry, tank, fighter. Recons don't provide mass attack bonus iirc.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:49 pm
				by scorehouse
				thanks especially for the Recon's don't participate info
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:41 pm
				by VirgilInTheSKY
				Recon gives recon bonus, that's why they don't participate in mass attack.
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:42 pm
				by scorehouse
				speaking of Recon. if I have an Air Recon with Aim Assist between 2 fighters with aggressive counter when attacked will the Assist and Recon traits take effect when the fighters defend themselves? and will they help with Double Support?
			 
			
					
				Re: Double Mass Attack
				Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 5:55 am
				by VirgilInTheSKY
				scorehouse wrote: ↑Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:42 pm
speaking of Recon. if I have an Air Recon with Aim Assist between 2 fighters with aggressive counter when attacked will the Assist and Recon traits take effect when the fighters defend themselves? and will they help with Double Support?
 
Aiming Assistance should work as long as the unit attacking/defending is adjacent to the unit, but the air recon trait only works on target underneath the unit, not to adjacent combat iirc.