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Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:22 pm
by bru888
Hey you modders, here is a challenge:

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There are submarines, there are mini-submarines, and then there are human torpedoes. Developed by the Italians in the 1930s, human torpedoes—called SLCs (from the Italian for “slow-running torpedo”) and nicknamed Maiale (“pig”)—were manned, navigable submersibles designed for surprise mine attacks on enemy ships anchored in port. Several series were produced.

Launched from a nearby sub, two Italian marine commandos would sit astride the torpedo and quietly putter along the waterline at about two knots toward the harbor. The frogmen would then descend underwater, cut through any anti-submarine netting guarding the port, and clamp mines onto the hulls of the target ships.
https://www.historynet.com/italys-slow- ... nt-hnn-new

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Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:39 pm
by 1ang
Impresa di Alessandria notte 18/19 dicembre 1941

gli operatori dei 3 S.L.C.
Luigi Durand de la Penne
Emilio Bianchi
Antonio Marceglia
Spartaco Schergat
Vincenzo Martellotta
Mario Marino
http://www.ocean4future.org/savetheocean/archives/25689

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impresa_di_Alessandria

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:50 pm
by bru888
Grazie! The English version of the Wikipedia article about The Raid on Alexandria (1941):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_(1941)
The Raid on Alexandria was carried out on 19 December 1941 by Italian Navy divers of the Decima Flottiglia MAS, who attacked and disabled two Royal Navy battleships in the harbour of Alexandria, Egypt, using manned torpedoes.

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:50 am
by 1ang
bru888 wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:50 pm Grazie! The English version of the Wikipedia article about The Raid on Alexandria (1941):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Alexandria_(1941)
The Raid on Alexandria was carried out on 19 December 1941 by Italian Navy divers of the Decima Flottiglia MAS, who attacked and disabled two Royal Navy battleships in the harbour of Alexandria, Egypt, using manned torpedoes.
ciao bru88,please good day translated with google :)

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:09 pm
by GabeKnight
bru888 wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:22 pm Hey you modders, here is a challenge:
Try modding this! The Human Torpedo
Funny thing, it's already in the game! The Brit. SBS_Canoe unit on water. :lol:

You just have to assign a ship-attack value to them. They already dive submerged when moving... :shock:

( :arrow: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewto ... 44#p987244)

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:17 pm
by StuccoFresco
It shouldn't be hard at all even starting from a blank slate, but it seems GabeKnight has already "found" them. Do the Canoe self-destructs after hitting?

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:11 pm
by bru888
First, I don't see much resemblance of the SBS Canoe to the above images:

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However, Gabe had the right idea, StuccoFresco. From reading the article, I got the impression that the "Human Torpedo" was more of a vehicle than a torpedo. Actually, it would operate more like a submarine, come to think of it.

In that regard, the better starting point might be the Japanese Kaiten suicide submarine:

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The thread title was tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps there would be a modder out there up to the challenge of converting this to the Italian "Human Torpedo"?

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:00 pm
by bru888
bru888 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:11 pm The thread title was tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps there would be a modder out there up to the challenge of converting this to the Italian "Human Torpedo"?
Heh, I am putting way too much thought into this now, but rather than having the kamikaze trait of the Kaiten, the Italian Human Torpedo would need the camouflaged, concealable, specOps, and quickRetreat traits of the SBS Canoe. It would need to be able to strike like a commando and not self-destruct like a suicide sub. Sort of a blend of the two units; SBS Canoe for operations and Kaiten as a starting point for appearance.

And! And, the Human Torpedo would need two versions: surface and submerged and be switchable.

So, who is up to this challenge, eh? :wink:

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:31 pm
by bru888
bru888 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:00 pm
bru888 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:11 pm The thread title was tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps there would be a modder out there up to the challenge of converting this to the Italian "Human Torpedo"?
Heh, I am putting way too much thought into this now, but rather than having the kamikaze trait of the Kaiten, the Italian Human Torpedo would need the camouflaged, concealable, specOps, and quickRetreat traits of the SBS Canoe. It would need to be able to strike like a commando and not self-destruct like a suicide sub. Sort of a blend of the two units; SBS Canoe for operations and Kaiten as a starting point for appearance.

And! And, the Human Torpedo would need two versions: surface and submerged and be switchable.

So, who is up to this challenge, eh? :wink:
Backtracking: No, forget about the SBS Canoe stuff. The Italian Human Torpedo would not be making landfall and converting into commandos. Instead, it would operate like a very small submarine with, perhaps, outsized offensive capability. So the Kaiten is the best starting point, a surface/submerge unit pair, operating like a submarine (but with direct attack only, no torpedoes) and with a couple of guys riding on it!

Now, Bruce, find something else to do, will you? :(

Re: Try modding this! The Human Torpedo

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:08 am
by Admiral_Horthy
I had that in my mind, years ago))