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Ok, with FoGR rules and army lists right around the corner (November?!), what army are you most likely to play as of today (I am aware that this may change, of course once you get the lists in your hands and they dont have your favorite army OR, you find a new one you like more!):

So as of today, here are my top 5:

1) 16th Century Samurai (Heck, I already have 2 armies worth in 15mm!),
2) 16th Century Koreans (horrible infantry but gotta love those rockets and Guerillas!),
3) 16th Century MIng Chinese (horrible infantry...but they just keep coming, and coming, and coming!),
4) English Civil War Scots (For God and the Covenant!),
5) Ivan the Terrible Russians (enemies to the left of me...enemies to the right of me!)


Okay, now yours

Are we limited to just 5? HELP!

1) 30 Years War Swedes - Gustav Adolph II has always been one of my heros
2) Swiss (one of my favourite armies and I can do about 1000 points today)
3) Polish-Lithuanian R'polita (how can you fail to love the Winged Hussars?)
4) Henry VIII Tudor in Ireland and Europe (one of my favourite armies from back when I used to play Tercio despite a 100% loss record)
5) ECW Scots Covenantors (will the minister have to be on the command base or will he be a BG all of his own?)

That leaves out the Maxamillian Imperial, Early 17th C Spanish in Italy/Iberia, Ordonnance French, Hugenot French, ECW New Model Army, ECW Royalist Northern Army (Langdale's mob), Russian Traditional, Scanian War Swedes, League of Augsberg Anglo-Dutch, 30YW Imperials and some others I am sure I have forgotten. And that's just 15mm!

I will build Imperial (with both Landsknechts and Spanish focus), Swiss and French armies for the Italian wars in 28mm, focussed on the twenties. Certainly also some peasant army from the war of 25. Probably Venetian and other Italians, too, if I can find suitable miniatures. The "Spanish centure" from TAG seem to look very promising, if mainly in the planning stage yet.

Venaxia have some 28mm XV Century figures in 28mm that will just about do for 1520 Venice. They look wonderful.

Link http://www.venexiaminiatures.com/

Yep, I know that range. ALL that I want, just at the wrong scale

If I only would play 15mm, they would REALLY make some money with me
But its too late to start yet another scale. 28mm is my area and several hundred Landsknechts and companions eagerly await their new basing.

Their Condottieri are first class, but sadly most of them really look like late 15th century, not early 16th century. Only a few of them can be used, mainly the heavily armoured. Crossbows, eg, were dropped in Italy before the end of the 15th century. But you are right, the heavy horse might become the core of a Venetian or Romagna force (Cesare Borgia in a what if), or perhaps an Italian force under Giovanni Medici (another what if). I really need to give them a chance - at least coming from Italy they won`t be hold up at the custom office like the Eureka Gendarmes.

I have 25mm/28mm Mughals probably Akhbar period though they are washed with Sepia
to resemble "dusty Deccan veterans" (Bamber Gascoigne's phrase"
Rockets, bombards, nellies with firearm crew, sadhus with swords and bucklers, bunduqchis, peasant bowmen, mansabdari
heavy cavalry, rajput lancers, muslim light cavalry and the general in a howdah on a nelly
Somebody on the WWW said Mughals were more colourful than most warhammer fantasy armies

Samei00 wrote:I have 25mm/28mm Mughals probably Akhbar period though they are washed with Sepia
to resemble "dusty Deccan veterans" (Bamber Gascoigne's phrase"
Rockets, bombards, nellies with firearm crew, sadhus with swords and bucklers, bunduqchis, peasant bowmen, mansabdari
heavy cavalry, rajput lancers, muslim light cavalry and the general in a howdah on a nelly
Somebody on the WWW said Mughals were more colourful than most warhammer fantasy armies

"28mm Mughals"

An interesting army. What minis do you use?

multiple sources really
Bearsden Miniatures do most everything in a big 28mm scale except fire armed elephants (google em) and wagons and are the best single source
though their horses are not everybody's cup of tea. From my home town of Glasgow. They featured in a recent article in Wargames Illustrated
I got my armed sadhus and bunduqchis and rocketmen from London War Room in US
my nellies, camp followers and levy spearmen are Foundry
Irregular minis are a source of wagons oxen driven

Huaxtec15mm wrote:Ok, with FoGR rules and army lists right around the corner (November?!), what army are you most likely to play as of today (I am aware that this may change, of course once you get the lists in your hands and they dont have your favorite army OR, you find a new one you like more!)

Huguenots appeal - always have. Anything to do with William of Orange or Louis XIV. Elizabethans, Knights of St. John, Spaniards, Hungarians . . . something far and away and exotic, Siamese or Moghuls or such.

I doubt I would actually do more than 1 - 3 armies, as ancients are more interesting to me.

If the Huguenot list is fun, viable or both it is a sure thing though.

Huaxtec15mm wrote:Ok, with FoGR rules and army lists right around the corner (November?!),

Egads, Sirrah, 'tis November already - but, beg pardon, I mistook the year intended.

what army are you most likely to play as of today (I am aware that this may change, of course once you get the lists in your hands and they dont have your favorite army

1) 16th Century Samurai (Heck, I already have 2 armies worth in 15mm!),

I think we all do.

2) 16th Century Koreans (horrible infantry but gotta love those rockets and Guerillas!),

Playing against it might also be fun.

3) 16th Century MIng Chinese (horrible infantry...but they just keep coming, and coming, and coming!),

Definitely. Someone has attractive Ming locally and it will be interesting to see how it can be used. Ming vs. Manchu for a start. Then go crazy?

4) English Civil War Scots (For God and the Covenant!),

What ever happened to the Covenant anyway? Locked away in an Ark of some kind, I think I heard?

Probably some vanilla ECW, but more interested in the different systems of the Swedes/Poles/Imperialists/Ottomans mainly TYW.

5) Ivan the Terrible Russians (enemies to the left of me...enemies to the right of me!)

Terrible Russians if they are intriguing - certainly Cossacks though, mixing nicely with the Poles and Khanates as well.

Swiss - I always play Swiss once or twice per rules set just 'cause they are, well, Swiss! Then disappointment sets in, though it was not so much with FOGAM and I have hopes for FOGR.

Next put Swiss contingents into the Italian Wars, an interesting period with fun field battles.

I have 1690s Anglo-Dutch so WOTLOA if the rules get the low-pike/bayonet transitional armies right.

I also have Moghuls and Khmer/Champa that should see action.

I'd play New World battles just for interest but lack troops for more than a skirmish.

Oh, and as a test, whatever the equivalent of West African Forest Peoples may be vs. Arabs or another "normal" list. Almost all inferior warbands, I thought them the weakest list in DBR and thus particularly interesting list to try (though admittedly the WAFP troops were almost entirely represented by surrogates).

That should cover a few years at least.

Mike

Cossacks might be very interesting. Late period WotLoA / Scanian War armies might not be quite as good as in DBR.

For me I have run Swiss and they are a blast. Changes on the way will I think make Swiss viable in the next Beta (I plan to give them a run in a week or 2). Swiss in an Italian Wars French army are starting to look VERY interesting, as are Early Tercio armies. I will be rebasing my PoW Spanish to FoGR later this year, same for my WotLoA stuff - that might only make 650 points though. ECW Royalist, Parliamentarian and Scots will need to be completed.

Early English Tudor rebased from 'Tercio 5th edition' will feature - I started a decade ago for DBR but am now enthused again - as will my Poles and Russians. Finally my Maxamilian Imperial and Millers armies need to be completed.

Regards
Tim

I think probably something early where bang hasn't completely replaced twang.

Other than Ottomans, twang definately seems to take second place to bang.

And clang fading away over the period.

Spanish first the colunellas (Coronelias) and later the mighties Tercios at all the fronts: Italian Wars, 80 Years War, French Wars Religion, North Africa, and Thirty Years War. (1495 to 1659)
Would need a lot of gold? No, only time to paint half of them
Later maybe the Polish with its winged hussars.

Only 5mm for me, I'm goingt to play my old Swiss, Venetians, New Model Army, French 30YW and Ottoman Turks

@Huaxtec: i really appreciate your upadates...its very useful...thanks

Some of the North African Arab armies interest me too. How will they fare ?

Scrumpy wrote:Some of the North African Arab armies interest me too. How will they fare ?

I wish I could send a couple southern debutantes to sell you painted Renaissance armies. I think think it would be the wargames equivalent of beer at Oktoberfest.

timmy1 wrote:Other than Ottomans, twang definately seems to take second place to bang.

Early Henrician English is worth a go methinks.