Slitherine

Would it be possible (or maybe already is) to turn off the animation of routing enemy or friendly units running across the map?

Probably not, but I am not entirely sure what you mean. Do you want them to disappear, teleport, slide sinisterly like ghosts or what?

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:24 pm Probably not, but I am not entirely sure what you mean. Do you want them to disappear, teleport, slide sinisterly like ghosts or what?

I'd like the camera to not move to and follow the routing units after having ended my or the enemy's turn.

But maybe it would be sufficient with turning Idle animations off.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:10 pm

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:24 pm Probably not, but I am not entirely sure what you mean. Do you want them to disappear, teleport, slide sinisterly like ghosts or what?

I'd like the camera to not move to and follow the routing units after having ended my or the enemy's turn.

Not currently an option.

But maybe it would be sufficient with turning Idle animations off.

That wouldn't affect it.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:39 am

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:10 pm

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:24 pm Probably not, but I am not entirely sure what you mean. Do you want them to disappear, teleport, slide sinisterly like ghosts or what?

I'd like the camera to not move to and follow the routing units after having ended my or the enemy's turn.

Not currently an option.

But maybe it would be sufficient with turning Idle animations off.

That wouldn't affect it.

OK, thanks for answer anyway, Richard.

I for one would appreciate the 'slide sinisterly like ghosts' option. Ideally with some kind of ghastly special effect or moan. Although routers turning into shambling bands of ghouls and zombies would probably affect game balance a tad.

if you wanted to mod it in, I think that calls to AddVizCamUnit() turn the camera on a unit (not sure I didn't actually test it out), so you could just comment that out wherever it's called on routers or on units when they disperse. You shouldn't mod your main game build, but you could make a little mod that did it.

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:08 am if you wanted to mod it in, I think that calls to AddVizCamUnit() turn the camera on a unit (not sure I didn't actually test it out), so you could just comment that out wherever it's called on routers or on units when they disperse. You shouldn't mod your main game build, but you could make a little mod that did it.

Excellent , thanks for advice: I'll try that out.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:58 am

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:08 am if you wanted to mod it in, I think that calls to AddVizCamUnit() turn the camera on a unit (not sure I didn't actually test it out), so you could just comment that out wherever it's called on routers or on units when they disperse. You shouldn't mod your main game build, but you could make a little mod that did it.

Excellent , thanks for advice: I'll try that out.

Unfortunately couldn't find it. And I'm unsure as to how create that mod so that it would work with vanilla's all campaigns and battles.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:41 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:58 am

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:08 am if you wanted to mod it in, I think that calls to AddVizCamUnit() turn the camera on a unit (not sure I didn't actually test it out), so you could just comment that out wherever it's called on routers or on units when they disperse. You shouldn't mod your main game build, but you could make a little mod that did it.

Excellent , thanks for advice: I'll try that out.

Unfortunately couldn't find it. And I'm unsure as to how create that mod so that it would work with vanilla's all campaigns and battles.

this should do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/72c9ijyzrhrt ... PxB-a?dl=0

just install like any other mod: paste the whole folder into CAMPAIGNS for singleplayer and MULTIPLAYER for multiplayer in:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\CAMPAIGNS
or
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\MULTIPLAYER

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:41 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:58 am

Excellent , thanks for advice: I'll try that out.

Unfortunately couldn't find it. And I'm unsure as to how create that mod so that it would work with vanilla's all campaigns and battles.

this should do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/72c9ijyzrhrt ... PxB-a?dl=0

just install like any other mod: paste the whole folder into CAMPAIGNS for singleplayer and MULTIPLAYER for multiplayer in:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\CAMPAIGNS
or
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\MULTIPLAYER

Super: works like a charm, many thanks!

Out of curiosity: there were quite some files therein. That many files needed to be amended?

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:40 pm

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:41 pm

Unfortunately couldn't find it. And I'm unsure as to how create that mod so that it would work with vanilla's all campaigns and battles.

this should do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/72c9ijyzrhrt ... PxB-a?dl=0

just install like any other mod: paste the whole folder into CAMPAIGNS for singleplayer and MULTIPLAYER for multiplayer in:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\CAMPAIGNS
or
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\MULTIPLAYER

Super: works like a charm, many thanks!

Out of curiosity: there were quite some files therein. That many files needed to be amended?

some I didn't end up editing, but the viz cam calls are all over the place so I think at least three of them are needed (one in assault.bsf for I think initial pursuits, one in aitools.bsf for the cam following step after step after pursuers/routers, and one in moraletools.bsf for dispersals. I added move.bs to potentially remove the camera follow for move replays but decided against it. I also considered removing the camera move to rallies, also in moraletools.bsf, but kept that instead. And then of course you need the boilerplate file structure stuff and the text file for the mod name

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:17 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:40 pm

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 pm

this should do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/72c9ijyzrhrt ... PxB-a?dl=0

just install like any other mod: paste the whole folder into CAMPAIGNS for singleplayer and MULTIPLAYER for multiplayer in:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\CAMPAIGNS
or
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\MULTIPLAYER

Super: works like a charm, many thanks!

Out of curiosity: there were quite some files therein. That many files needed to be amended?

some I didn't end up editing, but the viz cam calls are all over the place so I think at least three of them are needed (one in assault.bsf for I think initial pursuits, one in aitools.bsf for the cam following step after step after pursuers/routers, and one in moraletools.bsf for dispersals. I added move.bs to potentially remove the camera follow for move replays but decided against it. I also considered removing the camera move to rallies, also in moraletools.bsf, but kept that instead. And then of course you need the boilerplate file structure stuff and the text file for the mod name

In theory, v1.5.30 should remove the need to include $DEFAULT.BSF in mods. Let me know if you leave it out and any modded (non-UI) scripts are not being loaded.

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:17 pm In theory, v1.5.30 should remove the need to include $DEFAULT.BSF in mods. Let me know if you leave it out and any modded (non-UI) scripts are not being loaded.

ok cool

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:17 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:40 pm

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:19 pm

this should do it:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/72c9ijyzrhrt ... PxB-a?dl=0

just install like any other mod: paste the whole folder into CAMPAIGNS for singleplayer and MULTIPLAYER for multiplayer in:

C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\CAMPAIGNS
or
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\My Games\FieldOfGlory2\MULTIPLAYER

Super: works like a charm, many thanks!

Out of curiosity: there were quite some files therein. That many files needed to be amended?

some I didn't end up editing, but the viz cam calls are all over the place so I think at least three of them are needed (one in assault.bsf for I think initial pursuits, one in aitools.bsf for the cam following step after step after pursuers/routers, and one in moraletools.bsf for dispersals. I added move.bs to potentially remove the camera follow for move replays but decided against it. I also considered removing the camera move to rallies, also in moraletools.bsf, but kept that instead. And then of course you need the boilerplate file structure stuff and the text file for the mod name

So I'm just after removing camera following routing units, then it's basically just aitools.bsf among the files in Data folder that is needed therein? (And $DEFAULT.BSF in 1.5.28.)

How about the TEXT9.txt file and the files in the SCENARIOS folder?

The reason for asking is because I'm trying to understand modding of FoG2 and minimise files.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:44 pm

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:17 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:40 pm

Super: works like a charm, many thanks!

Out of curiosity: there were quite some files therein. That many files needed to be amended?

some I didn't end up editing, but the viz cam calls are all over the place so I think at least three of them are needed (one in assault.bsf for I think initial pursuits, one in aitools.bsf for the cam following step after step after pursuers/routers, and one in moraletools.bsf for dispersals. I added move.bs to potentially remove the camera follow for move replays but decided against it. I also considered removing the camera move to rallies, also in moraletools.bsf, but kept that instead. And then of course you need the boilerplate file structure stuff and the text file for the mod name

So I'm just after removing camera following routing units, then it's basically just aitools.bsf among the files in Data folder that is needed therein? (And $DEFAULT.BSF in 1.5.28.)

How about the TEXT9.txt file and the files in the SCENARIOS folder?

The reason for asking is because I'm trying to understand modding of FoG2 and minimise files.

text1 is for the mod's name, but also a lot of other strings can go in there if you like.
text9 in this case has some general's names that were put in there automatically from adding generals to a side in an editor scenario
SCENARIOS folder's content is for custom editor scenarios, and is not needed for the mod's functioning at all (keep the folder but you can delete all of the .BAM files in it, they are just leftover from tests I was doing on different mods and I did not delete them after copying over a kind of base mod I use to make new mods from)
if the .vs folder is still in there it is the visual studio folder for like IDE settings and is also not needed for the functioning of the mod
Campaign.txt indicates the type of mod it is, where TYPE 0 can be used for singleplayer custom battles, epic battles, scenario editor and multiplayer battles. I forget what the other types are but they are listed somewhere.
Data/Battle/Scripts and Data/scripts are where the meat of the actual gameplay changes are and they contain the .bsf scripts that do all the gameplay stuff.

I haven't looked at it enough to tell if for camera follow purposes it is distinguishing between broken and non broken units evading/routing. Are you saying that you want to to still follow evading (non broken) units, but not the broken units?

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:23 pm Are you saying that you want to to still follow evading (non broken) units, but not the broken units?

Yep, that's the idea.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:32 pm

Schweetness101 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:23 pm Are you saying that you want to to still follow evading (non broken) units, but not the broken units?

Yep, that's the idea.

I would just experiment with commenting out and uncommenting out these lines:

assault.bsf
line 917

aitools.bsfs
1758

MoraleTools.bsf
line 1167

but I'm not sure the native code makes the routing/evading distinction for AddVizCamUnit(), so you may have to do something like make a morale state distinction in the above lines, ie do an if(getattrib(me,"moralestate") < 3)...type of thing, that is if the unit is not broken, then call AddVizCamUnit().

that could be a good first challenge!