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Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:02 pm
by DanZanzibar
Came across this weird situation where the cav I had set up to flank the turn before wants to take a longer route to attack the target that leads to a frontal attack. Naturally I was hoping he would move one square and flank the infantry.

For the life of me I cannot figure out why this is functioning this way. I guess there's some nuance to the mechanics that I'm not understanding but it is anything but obvious.

Any help?
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Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:04 pm
by SnuggleBunnies
Need a screenshot to help you out, lots of things could be going on from that description

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:05 pm
by DanZanzibar
Sorry - I attached it but it's not showing up. I keep trying but it disappears when I submit. I've done this before (like once) but can't seem to get it to work.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:31 pm
by DanZanzibar
Even when I try to provide a link to the Google drive image it doesn't work. Here's a link to the image though.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Htcxlg ... sp=sharing

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:36 pm
by zakblood
downloaded to the pc and added manually for you

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:43 pm
by DanZanzibar
zakblood wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 2:36 pm downloaded to the pc and added manually for you
Thank you!

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:45 pm
by melm
The dots indicate that the cav will go the position two squares from the initial position? Weird to me.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:47 pm
by zakblood
have you a game save from this position?

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:51 pm
by DanZanzibar
No I'm afraid not but I can say I also tried moving the cav to the adjacent square and then attacking but I couldn't due to too many turns.

It was (and still is) a MP match.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 2:58 pm
by melm
DanZanzibar wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 2:51 pm No I'm afraid not but I can say I also tried moving the cav to the adjacent square and then attacking but I couldn't due to too many turns.

It was (and still is) a MP match.

If you move to adjacent square, you inevitably have to change the facing of the cav by 45 degrees. Then the charge demands another 45 degrees of change of facing, which is not allowed. So you can't charge the unit by moving to the adjacent square. Only if your initial facing is towards the right, I think it can be a valid flank charge. However, I still don't understand why the charge is allowed two squares away.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:00 pm
by rbodleyscott
That is very strange and I can't explain why it wants to take that route.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:01 pm
by Gaznak
You might be able to force it to take the route you want by moving the raw shieldwall forward.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 3:12 pm
by DanZanzibar
If you move to adjacent square, you inevitably have to change the facing of the cav by 45 degrees. Then the charge demands another 45 degrees of change of facing, which is not allowed. So you can't charge the unit by moving to the adjacent square. Only if your initial facing is towards the right, I think it can be a valid flank charge. However, I still don't understand why the charge is allowed two squares away.
Yeah I get this. I just wanted to try to make it work.
That is very strange and I can't explain why it wants to take that route.
I appreciate you taking a look. I haven't seen something like this before but I figured the more experienced out there must have.
You might be able to force it to take the route you want by moving the raw shieldwall forward.
Oh I should have tried that! I needed that flank attack especially after a rather unlucky double drop the turn before from the other troop fighting there.

Re: Why can't this cav flank?

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:42 am
by Cunningcairn
rbodleyscott wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:00 pm That is very strange and I can't explain why it wants to take that route.
I had a similar experience in another game where my cav was one square away facing the enemy flank corner. I didnt take notice of the direction of charge as it was too obvious where it should go. I pressed charge and it bypassed the flank and attacked the unit frontally.