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I discovered that my aircraft can not use all the heroes. Also, can I use the x1.5 hero on my artillery? Some heroes either are not working or just not working for the vehicle I attached them to. Can someone let me know where all the detailed info for the heroes is located? Obviously the manual is lacking. Thanks

superman81906 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:01 pm I discovered that my aircraft can not use all the heroes. Also, can I use the x1.5 hero on my artillery? Some heroes either are not working or just not working for the vehicle I attached them to. Can someone let me know where all the detailed info for the heroes is located? Obviously the manual is lacking. Thanks

I don't think there is any definitive answer to this. The devs haven't posted any comprehensive list here anyway. And there's the uncertainty of what is a bug and what is working as designed.

Yeah, I was hoping that I could attach an overrun hero to a high powered fighter plane but it didn’t “work”. Figured it was worth a try!

Dmurphy238 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:32 pm Yeah, I was hoping that I could attach an overrun hero to a high powered fighter plane but it didn’t “work”. Figured it was worth a try!

Remember overrun only triggers:

#1 - if you take no losses
#2 - if there is no supporting fire.

Tanks earn the "steamroller" award which allows overrun to trigger on any kill - but Planes don't get this.

Nalikill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:34 pm

Dmurphy238 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:32 pm Yeah, I was hoping that I could attach an overrun hero to a high powered fighter plane but it didn’t “work”. Figured it was worth a try!

Remember overrun only triggers:
#1 - if you take no losses
#2 - if there is no supporting fire.
Tanks earn the "steamroller" award which allows overrun to trigger on any kill - but Planes don't get this.

There is also the open terrain requirement, and that's probably why overrun doesn't work on fighters.

In general, a sort of a table with such limitations would be nice.

Hexaboo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:48 pm There is also the open terrain requirement, and that's probably why overrun doesn't work on fighters.

In general, a sort of a table with such limitations would be nice.

But the sky is the most open terrain there is!

Dmurphy238 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:32 pm Yeah, I was hoping that I could attach an overrun hero to a high powered fighter plane but it didn’t “work”. Figured it was worth a try!

LOL, I was just about to test this, thanks!

superman81906 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:01 pm I discovered that my aircraft can not use all the heroes. Also, can I use the x1.5 hero on my artillery? Some heroes either are not working or just not working for the vehicle I attached them to. Can someone let me know where all the detailed info for the heroes is located? Obviously the manual is lacking. Thanks

I've tried using the 1.5x and 2.0x rate of fire heroes and the 3 and 4 entrenchment destruction heroes on artillery and they show up in the info screen as attributes for the units, but they don't seem to affect combat. I suspect those kinds of things only work if attached to combat units that don't already have Increased Rof or Entrenchment reduction abilities.

Developers need to better document how these features work in practice.

The 1.5x rate of fire worked fine for me on arty-- showed up in the combat log and everything. Don't know about the others.

RandomAttack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 pm The 1.5x rate of fire worked fine for me on arty-- showed up in the combat log and everything. Don't know about the others.

Are you speaking about the native 1.5x RoF ability some arty has, or are you speaking of a Hero's additional 1.5x RoF bonus added to the artillery? I know the native 1.5x bonus of arty units works OK, it is the hero bonus added to it that does not seem to be additive for me.

gunnergoz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:05 pm

RandomAttack wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 pm The 1.5x rate of fire worked fine for me on arty-- showed up in the combat log and everything. Don't know about the others.

Are you speaking about the native 1.5x RoF ability some arty has, or are you speaking of a Hero's additional 1.5x RoF bonus added to the artillery? I know the native 1.5x bonus of arty units works OK, it is the hero bonus added to it that does not seem to be additive for me.

I added a 1.5x hero to my 15 cm arty and it is getting the bonus per the combat log-- not sure about how it stacks with native ability.

gunnergoz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:05 pm Are you speaking about the native 1.5x RoF ability some arty has, or are you speaking of a Hero's additional 1.5x RoF bonus added to the artillery? I know the native 1.5x bonus of arty units works OK, it is the hero bonus added to it that does not seem to be additive for me.

The heroes aren't supposed to stack with the intrinsic Rapid Fire trait; they used to but this was classed as a bug, so it might've been changed by now.

I put a 1.5x Rapid fire hero on my Gustav and it obviously worked, as it oneshot full strength units regularly. But Gustav is not typical artillery with the supression trait I guess.

gokkel wrote: ↑Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:55 pm I put a 1.5x Rapid fire hero on my Gustav and it obviously worked, as it oneshot full strength units regularly. But Gustav is not typical artillery with the supression trait I guess.

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