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Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:41 am
by superman81906
I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back, all of them? How about an option in the menu that players can choose either live 100% every time, or less 25%, 50%, 75% that they may or may not survive. Put some excitement and consequences into the hero department. Living 100% all the time feels too gamey and baby level war game to me, an option for everyone to play how they choose would be an improvement.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:04 am
by jeffoot77
+1
if you have a powerful hero , you must admit you may lose him
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:01 am
by Horseman
superman81906 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:41 am
I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back? Maybe a percentage chance they live and you get them back if this mechanic does not already exist. Would bring some uncertainty to losing a heroic unit.
I must admit I assumed heros did die of the unit they were attached to were lost.
I'd prefere it that way.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:50 am
by superman81906
jeffoot77 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:04 am
+1
if you have a powerful hero , you must admit you may lose him
Yes
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:51 am
by superman81906
Horseman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:01 am
superman81906 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:41 am
I thought I lost some really important units, but the heroes are back? Maybe a percentage chance they live and you get them back if this mechanic does not already exist. Would bring some uncertainty to losing a heroic unit.
I must admit I assumed heros did die of the unit they were attached to were lost.
I'd prefere it that way.
I thought instead of getting them back completely every time, maybe there could be a 25% chance they survive?
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:02 pm
by Horseman
Maybe a chance they survive. They 100% shouldn't be immortal!
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:31 pm
by superman81906
Horseman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:02 pm
Maybe a chance they survive. They 100% shouldn't be immortal!
Agree.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am
by eddieballgame
You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
by Kerensky
eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am
You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:44 am
by superman81906
Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am
You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.
Any why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:55 am
by Horseman
A valid point regarding dismissing them however.....
There's a reason Iron man settings exist in many many games when you can just choose not to reload.
Maybe make it a selectable option?
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:14 am
by ErissN6
"People's hero are immortal"
So they should not "die", every hero (moreover she-heroes) appear again later under same name, even (s)he's probably someone different.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:22 am
by jeffoot77
"maybe there could be a 25% chance they survive"
--> NO! i don't play in Chess mode to get more RNG with my heroes!
"Maybe make it a selectable option?"
--> +1 : and in iron mode , make them perish !
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:08 am
by superman81906
jeffoot77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:22 am
"maybe there could be a 25% chance they survive"
--> NO! i don't play in Chess mode to get more RNG with my heroes!
"Maybe make it a selectable option?"
--> +1 : and in iron mode , make them perish !
That is exactly what I said, AN OPTION FOR PLAYERS THAT WANT IT.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:35 pm
by o_t_d_x
superman81906 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:44 am
Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:16 am
You can always refuse to use them after they...perish.
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.
Any why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.
100% d´accord. An
option would be great. And by the way: in
iron man mode its defenitly a must. (and no i dont want to dismiss the heroes myself, i want to set a percentage from zero to 100% at beginning of the campaign)
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:51 pm
by eddieballgame
If the 'devs' can squeeze this option in while focusing on the, more, important stuff such as more scenarios, campaigns, modding tools, bug fixes, etc...sure, why not.
Personally I would like some UI Scaling per the text...but I can live without it. (I have other means of resolving that...issue.)
I suspect that a feature that can, already, be implemented by the player (though artificially) is not high on their 'todo' list.
Re: Heroes should die with their unit.
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:10 pm
by sIg3b
o_t_d_x wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:35 pm
superman81906 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:44 am
Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:16 am
Yup there's that dismiss button right there. Imposing such a rule on all players is just going to make more people reach for those save/load buttons. While anyone who wants to impose chance for hero death on themselves... go right ahead. But it won't be a default setting.
Any why not a setting in the menu, you sound like you know what is best for EVERY player. You don't, in fact, their are more players in this post that want a change or option for this. And like everything else in the game, it could be added or fixed. If you are a content creator for the game, your personal opinion for the only way to play the game does not matter, it matters what the players want, especially when you sound like a jerk off. An option would be the PROFESSIONAL decision, not your personal opinion.
100% d´accord. An
option would be great. And by the way: in
iron man mode its defenitly a must. (and no i dont want to dismiss the heroes myself, i want to set a percentage from zero to 100% at beginning of the campaign)
Agree.