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Barbarians - what periods , earliest to latest.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:08 am
by Keith
So use the term Barbarians to describe impact foot armies.
Can anyone give me a list from earliest to latest that these style armies existed ?
Celts to Franks ?
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:23 pm
by hammy
As far as the Greeks were concerned anyone who wasn't Greek was a barbarian.
I suspect that there was a similar term in use by the Assyrians, Hittites, and even Sumerians.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:34 pm
by LambertSimnel
It sounds like you are using 'barbarians' as shorthand for Undrilled Impact Foot Swordsmen, rather than as a cultural term; in which case:
The Visigoths can be almost all Impact Foot until 621; the Frisian and Old Saxon list says it ends in 'the early 6th century AD, but still supplies allied contingents of up to 44 Impact Foot to Charlemagne until 804; and the Later Scots Islesmen and Highlanders can be over 50% Impact Foot (but only as MF with Bow*) all the way to 1493!
EDIT: The earliest Undrilled Impact Foot Swordsmen in published lists appears to be the Gauls, whose list starts in the 4th century BC. I suspect, though, that we may see earlier impact foot either in Swifter than Eagles or as enemies of early Rome (whenever those lists appear).
Re: Barbarians - what periods , earliest to latest.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:06 pm
by lawrenceg
Keith wrote:So use the term Barbarians to describe impact foot armies.
Can anyone give me a list from earliest to latest that these style armies existed ?
Celts to Franks ?
Roman legionary impact foot might not be very happy about that use of the term.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:02 pm
by Scrumpy
I seem to remember seeing Barbarians in the 70s, I'm sure Dave Madigan still remembers 'the try'.

Re: Barbarians - what periods , earliest to latest.
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:04 pm
by DaiSho
lawrenceg wrote:Keith wrote:So use the term Barbarians to describe impact foot armies.
Can anyone give me a list from earliest to latest that these style armies existed ?
Celts to Franks ?
Roman legionary impact foot might not be very happy about that use of the term.
accurate as it may be

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:27 am
by Lycanthropic
Sea Peoples (mickey mouse hats) is a good candidate for impact foot. Pity they won't have a thracian ally...........
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:31 pm
by Probert
Cimmerians
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:03 am
by bobm
Probert wrote:Cimmerians
With a mighty hewed "librarian" called Conan as their general....
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:02 pm
by ars_belli