Recalling Vipers when out numbered by Raiders??
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:46 pm
Hey all,
I have been doing some war game exercises with different feet compositions based of concentrated punches.
2x Mk2 Jupiter Battlestars
>2x Mk2 Viper squadrons
>2x Raptors (normal)
>Guided missiles (due to skirmish fleet cost)
2x Atlas Carriers
>1x Viper squadron
>1x Taipan Squadron
>1x Raptor Squadron
Total: 2 heavy Battlestars, 2 carriers, 6 Viper squadrons, 6 Raptor Squadrons, 2 Bomber/anti capital squadrons.
Faced off against:
2x Arachne
>1x Raider Prototype
>1x Cluster bombs
2x Cerberus
3x Raider Squadrons
1x Heavy Raider Squadron
2x Argos
>3x Raider Squadrons
>Guided missiles (due to skirmish fleet cost)
Total: 2 Assault carriers, 2 Super Heavy Carriers, 2 Command Ship Carriers, 12 Raider Squadrons and 2 Raider Prototypes (14 squadrons total fighters), 2 Heavy Raider Squadrons.
The mission was defensive in nature, three transports waiting for their FTL drives to recharge. My Mk2 Jupiters formed up forward to my Atlas carriers, and upon a hard to port maneuver at flank speed, ended up fore and starboard of the carriers to cover them.
All fighters scrambled and put on cover detail to the transports, Raptors were assigned to cover around the rearmost Atlas an await orders; Mk2's commenced flak fire to starboard and assumed defensive posture, Atlas carriers assumed offensive posture and commenced fire at the closest target that was just outside of Dradis range.
Flak intercepted munitions, and weakened some Raider squadrons, however the majority of the massed fighter wave was able to pass through. Vipers and Taipans were pulled from defensive duties on the transports, and each assigned to a Raider squadron. At this time, through flak fire, one of the Mk2's is boarded by raiders, but is able to repel and keep up the fight, however, having to position itself port side to the nearest enemy after sustaining heavy damage to starboard armor.
Currently, one transport has taken heavy damage, and needs navigation repairs, and two squadrons of vipers have been lost, one while making the attempt at a combat landing. Converged fire from a Mk2 and an Atlas bring down one Arachne, and then the second is soon to follow. Raptors are dispatched to board the carrier targets. One raptor squadron is intercepted and destroyed in flight.
Cylon squadrons begin pulling back, two wings of Vipers have sustained massive damage, and are recalled; even under defense of other wings of Vipers, retreating Raiders are able to mop up these Vipers as they move off towards their ships.
Mk2's forge ahead through the Cylon lines, using support fire from the Atlas's and directed rocket fire from the remaining raptors as they run sorties, an Argos is destroyed, followed by a Cerberus. Taipan bombers pursue and destroy any Raiders that were unable to retreat to their base ships, and then turn their attention on the remaining Argos, supported by the more damaged Mk2. The Atlas's and the still very fit to fight Mk2 are able to recall what Vipers they had left, and quickly dispatch the last Cerberus.
Outcome: Colonial victory
Losses:
Cylon
>6 ships, 14 wings of fighters, 2 support wings
Colonial
>4 Viper Squadrons, 2 Raptor squadrons, unknown number of marine casualties.
No transports destroyed, all hostiles removed from the area.
My question is this: How do I maintain better air superiority in this instance? Upon each attempt to recall my vipers, they were cute to shred, even when escorted with a defensive wing, who also suffered more damage. 32 Viper pilots, and 4 Raptor crewman overall is not a terrible trade for taking out Cylon carriers, command ships, and more than twice the amount of fighter squadrons; however seeing as Colonials are unable to field more fighters if a squadron cannot be recalled for repair, the air battle could have gone much differently and the transports could have been lost.
Suggestions? I feel like for the most part, my tactics were sound, and fighter pilots know what they signed up for, but from a high level and meta perspective, I want to know how to be better.
Thanks for reading, I really am looking forward to feedback.
Lieutenant Duran
Battlestar Trajan
I have been doing some war game exercises with different feet compositions based of concentrated punches.
2x Mk2 Jupiter Battlestars
>2x Mk2 Viper squadrons
>2x Raptors (normal)
>Guided missiles (due to skirmish fleet cost)
2x Atlas Carriers
>1x Viper squadron
>1x Taipan Squadron
>1x Raptor Squadron
Total: 2 heavy Battlestars, 2 carriers, 6 Viper squadrons, 6 Raptor Squadrons, 2 Bomber/anti capital squadrons.
Faced off against:
2x Arachne
>1x Raider Prototype
>1x Cluster bombs
2x Cerberus
3x Raider Squadrons
1x Heavy Raider Squadron
2x Argos
>3x Raider Squadrons
>Guided missiles (due to skirmish fleet cost)
Total: 2 Assault carriers, 2 Super Heavy Carriers, 2 Command Ship Carriers, 12 Raider Squadrons and 2 Raider Prototypes (14 squadrons total fighters), 2 Heavy Raider Squadrons.
The mission was defensive in nature, three transports waiting for their FTL drives to recharge. My Mk2 Jupiters formed up forward to my Atlas carriers, and upon a hard to port maneuver at flank speed, ended up fore and starboard of the carriers to cover them.
All fighters scrambled and put on cover detail to the transports, Raptors were assigned to cover around the rearmost Atlas an await orders; Mk2's commenced flak fire to starboard and assumed defensive posture, Atlas carriers assumed offensive posture and commenced fire at the closest target that was just outside of Dradis range.
Flak intercepted munitions, and weakened some Raider squadrons, however the majority of the massed fighter wave was able to pass through. Vipers and Taipans were pulled from defensive duties on the transports, and each assigned to a Raider squadron. At this time, through flak fire, one of the Mk2's is boarded by raiders, but is able to repel and keep up the fight, however, having to position itself port side to the nearest enemy after sustaining heavy damage to starboard armor.
Currently, one transport has taken heavy damage, and needs navigation repairs, and two squadrons of vipers have been lost, one while making the attempt at a combat landing. Converged fire from a Mk2 and an Atlas bring down one Arachne, and then the second is soon to follow. Raptors are dispatched to board the carrier targets. One raptor squadron is intercepted and destroyed in flight.
Cylon squadrons begin pulling back, two wings of Vipers have sustained massive damage, and are recalled; even under defense of other wings of Vipers, retreating Raiders are able to mop up these Vipers as they move off towards their ships.
Mk2's forge ahead through the Cylon lines, using support fire from the Atlas's and directed rocket fire from the remaining raptors as they run sorties, an Argos is destroyed, followed by a Cerberus. Taipan bombers pursue and destroy any Raiders that were unable to retreat to their base ships, and then turn their attention on the remaining Argos, supported by the more damaged Mk2. The Atlas's and the still very fit to fight Mk2 are able to recall what Vipers they had left, and quickly dispatch the last Cerberus.
Outcome: Colonial victory
Losses:
Cylon
>6 ships, 14 wings of fighters, 2 support wings
Colonial
>4 Viper Squadrons, 2 Raptor squadrons, unknown number of marine casualties.
No transports destroyed, all hostiles removed from the area.
My question is this: How do I maintain better air superiority in this instance? Upon each attempt to recall my vipers, they were cute to shred, even when escorted with a defensive wing, who also suffered more damage. 32 Viper pilots, and 4 Raptor crewman overall is not a terrible trade for taking out Cylon carriers, command ships, and more than twice the amount of fighter squadrons; however seeing as Colonials are unable to field more fighters if a squadron cannot be recalled for repair, the air battle could have gone much differently and the transports could have been lost.
Suggestions? I feel like for the most part, my tactics were sound, and fighter pilots know what they signed up for, but from a high level and meta perspective, I want to know how to be better.
Thanks for reading, I really am looking forward to feedback.
Lieutenant Duran
Battlestar Trajan