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A very simple question which must have been asked before

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:33 pm
by davek
Pulling together 2 lists, Classical Greek and Alexandrian Macedonian, I was amazed :shock: to find that foot companions are cheaper than equivalent hoplites whilst being more effective as thay get drilled and the 4th rank bonus.

Am I missing an obvious benefit that Offensive Spear get that Pike do not?

Re: A very simple question which must have been asked before

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:35 pm
by DaiSho
davek wrote:Pulling together 2 lists, Classical Greek and Alexandrian Macedonian, I was amazed :shock: to find that foot companions are cheaper than equivalent hoplites whilst being more effective as thay get drilled and the 4th rank bonus.

Am I missing an obvious benefit that Offensive Spear get that Pike do not?
Cost per file is much higher.

A fighting formation of Offensive spear is 2 deep.

A fighting formation of Foot Companions is 4 deep.

Fighting Foot Companions 3 deep vs Hoplites 2 deep is an even fight.

NOW work out the cost :)

Ian

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:51 pm
by davek
Can't you just deploy Pike 2 deep, it's an even fight, you get more bases (because they are cheaper) and also have the advantage of being drilled?

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:03 pm
by LambertSimnel
Offensive spear get a melee Point of Advantage when 2 deep. Pike don't get a melee point of advantage until they are 3 deep (and get a second when 4 deep), so if 2 deep will need 5s to hit hoplites in melee, who will themselves need 4s (except anachronistic armoured hoplites who will need 3s); giving the pike little chance of victory.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:05 pm
by davek
Thanks.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:08 pm
by LambertSimnel
nae bother