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In Preparation of All New Mods?

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:34 am
by spedius01
Ave,

It would appear to me that all impetus on the modding front has ground to a halt.

What has happened to the "Mod Squad"? Are you all waiting for someone to take the lead?

If any forward movement is to begin, then certain preliminary steps ought to be taken.

Step 01. Un-install Legion Arena
Step 02. Re-install Legion Arena
Step 03. Download and install the patch
Step 04. Download and install Cult of Mithras
Step 05. Create a separate directory for your mods
Step 06. Redo your earlier mods

Please feel free to continue this theme.

Vale

M. Spedius Corbulo

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:49 am
by Redpossum
Step 06a - curse and tear your hair out
Step 06b - Kick the dog until your neighbors call the ASPCA
Step 06c - Begin drinking heavily
Step 06d - Apply for unemployment, after losing your job

Heh, sorry to offer such a flippant reply to a serious message, Speedy, but...

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:51 am
by pipfromslitherine
You shouldn't need to redo them, as you can just drop the files into your mod folder?

Cheers

Pip

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:37 am
by Redpossum
Good point, Pip.

OK, OK, all flippancy aside.

I am kind of working on something (as you may have deduced from my comments above). But I don't know if it's going to amount to much, and so I'm leery of saying anything at this point.

The wretched failure of my attempts to organise a cup have left me a bit, ermm, cautious.

Nobody likes looking like an idiot, although I do get more practice at it than most ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:31 am
by magobarca
Saludo fellow Legionaires and Barbarians, or Boobarians if you like Raquel Welch etc., and Admirals if you like her's and similar Navel events,

Using Legion and Legion Gold as an example: the Auxilia Infantry were fine for use as Roman Allied Italians such as Samnites, Etruscans, Sabines, Lucanians etc. or as anti-Roman Italians. To me, it was no big deal to do a simple substitution like this, and I believe that is what Slitherine had in mind when playing in the Republican era. All purpose sprites that could be used unmodified as is to represent other troop types in our fertile imaginations. A litle bit of skinning and you had some more nifty troopies for various nations.

I wouldn't worry too much about extreme accuracy in this matter, since stats can be easily adjusted and a simple shield color change could do the trick. I never did look at my screen through a magnifying glass you know. :shock: :roll: :wink: :D

Don't get me wrong in my historical posts either because I am simply interested in these things, so I hope you don't take me for a know-it-all, which I am not, I just like to converse on these subjects and perhaps point out a few things that are little known or confusing. Sometimes more confusion is also fun. :roll:

Cheerios, Magobarca

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:19 am
by Redpossum
I imagine what's happening is that everyone is wrestling with the system, teaching themselves how to use it, and roughing out some campaign ideas.

I know I would start with a blank .txt file and my imagination, and lay out

1) The stages of the campaign, (e.g Gauls & Pyrrhus, The Third Servile War, Caesar's Gallic Wars).

2) How many battles per stage.

3) A title and very rough outline for each battle.

Then I would sit down and think real, real hard about the money thing. A pint or three at this stage would be an invaluable aid to cogitation.

4) Total denarii per *stage* of the campaign.

5) How those denarii are split among the various battles of the stage.

6) Fame, put that in as per 4 & 5 above.

7) Rough out enemy forces for the battles of the first stage.

Only at that point would I fire up the editor and start pushing bits around. But I think I'd try to get at least a working version of all the battles of the first stage before I decided on enemy forces for the rest of the campaign. Things have a way of changing...

It's going to take some serious testing to balance the denarii the player has to work with, against the quality of the opponents.

To be honest, doing it right seems to me like too big a project for one person.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:01 am
by miki
Hi Spedius,

I'm buried under a huge workload. Next month I hope will have more free time.

Best regards
Miki

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:01 pm
by magobarca
Do you mean total staring denari, because you eran denari and fame with each battle, or do you mean a new denari/fame system??

Magobarca

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:14 pm
by Redpossum
Mago, no, starting denarii isn't that tough an issue.

I meant how many denarii to award the player after each battle.

The more denarii you award the player, the tougher his force becomes. So you have to balance that against the opponent forces you design for the player to fight.

If you give the player too much cash, or the opponents are not tough enough, the campaign becomes a boring walk-over. If you give the player too little cash, or the opponents are too tough, the campaign becomes frustrating and no damn fun for any player of less than Alexander-level brilliance.


IF I ever get around to doing something fit to share with the community, it will probably be Britannicus in Britain.

Britannicus was the son of Claudius by his wife Messalina. According to Robert Graves, Claudius tried to give his son a classical roman education, and planned to send him away to britain, to be sheltered by friendly tribesmen there. Claudius' hope was that Britannicus would one day return and restore the republic

But Britannicus would not go, and insisted on remaining in Rome to contest the succession with his arch-rival Lucius Domitius, (Claudius' step-son, by his final wife and niece) who is known to history as the emperor Nero.

History tells us that Britannicus was murdered by Nero or his mother, and Nero went on to be emperor, to Rome's sorrow.

I thought a "what if" campaign might be interesting.

It also has the advantage of being wholly speculative and fictional, thus freeing me from the need to do much tedious research ;)

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:42 am
by magobarca
Ahhh, OK and thanx for the denari explanation, I should have figured that out but didn't. :?

The Britannicus thang sounds neat. I am not a big Empire fan but would enjoy something like that. Legion Gold's Britannia campaigns were fun. Purple Praetorian units lokk real good on the screen. Commodus' Gladiator unit would be an interesting unit to use.

I have no graphics skills other than the basic recoloring type, basically. :roll: Redundancy again, purposeful fun it evolved into, used to drive some Profs nuts, so ...

Magobarca

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:46 am
by magobarca
Hello,

What happened to Miki, he had done a Carthaginian Campaign, and I suuurrree would like to get my hands on it. Fun. :D

Chris