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[Unit discrepancy] FW 190 A/F/G [New]

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:17 pm
by prattaa
Playing some German campaigns I've run into some very strange stats with FW 190 variants.

FW 190 A - this should probably have been broken into separate early (A1-A5) & late (A6-A9) units. Early version should have good small air attack and air defense stats while late version would have better large air attack with less air defense. In general the unit should have better large air attack values. It should also have higher air defense values than comparable Bf 109 F/G due to radial engine vs water cooled and in line with P47/F6F 1943 radial engines.
FW 190 F - this is the ground attack variant so has higher ground attack values compared to FW 190 A which is correct but that comes at the cost of removing air to air weapons to allow to carry bombs. So air attack values should be worse than FW 190 A The additional armor added to the F increases ground defense but at the cost of air defense with the added weight resulting in a heavier, slower, and less maneuverable plane. Air defense value of 14 compared to 12 of FW 190 A seems off. Should not have the dogfighter trait and should be part of the tactical bomber class as Stuka units converted to FW 190 F. This is currently not possible in game.
FW 190 G - Same as F version except long range.

I would propose for FW 190 A increase large air attack to 12 and increase air defense to 13. For FW 190 F remove dogfighter trait, move to tactical bomber branch, increase ground attack to 8 (same as FW 190 G), reduce all air attack values to 10, and air defense to 12. FW 190 G same values as F just +2 attack time.
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Re: [Unit discrepancy] FW 190 A/F/G [New]

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:24 pm
by terminator
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Re: [Unit discrepancy] FW 190 A/F/G [New]

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:49 pm
by prattaa
From what I have seen the G had all but two wing root mounted 20 mm cannons removed so it's air attack values should be less than the A which had 4 x 20mm cannons. Also, I am not sure about the discrepancy in F/G ground attack values as they could carry the same bomb load.

Re: [Unit discrepancy] FW 190 A/F/G [New]

Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:28 am
by bebro
I agree that F/G stats should be adjusted somewhat. If we do it exactly as suggested I can't say atm.

Also PzC stats don't translate exactly to OOB since there are key diffs in some areas. They might serve as orientation, but we don't aim to exactly replicate them.

Re: [Unit discrepancy] FW 190 A/F/G [New]

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:52 pm
by terminator
bebro wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:28 am I agree that F/G stats should be adjusted somewhat. If we do it exactly as suggested I can't say atm.

Also PzC stats don't translate exactly to OOB since there are key diffs in some areas. They might serve as orientation, but we don't aim to exactly replicate them.
That was exactly the purpose of my post with the PzC stats :)