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Evading Cavalry

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:13 am
by Cunningcairn
Can a protected, above average, LSp cavalry unit receive a charge from an armoured, above average, lancer in good going without evading?

Re: Evading Cavalry

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 am
by rbodleyscott
Cunningcairn wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:13 am Can a protected, above average, LSp cavalry unit receive a charge from an armoured, above average, lancer in good going without evading?
Set the situation up in the Editor and try it.

My guess is that it would stand if the lancer starts in an adjacent square, because of the risk of being caught, but that does depend on how great the disparity in combat power is. If the disparity is great enough, it will evade anyway despite the risk of being caught. And there is a small random adjustment to the combat power estimate before the decision is made - so if the decision is very close the random element may kick in.

If the lancer starts further away, I would expect it to always evade.

Re: Evading Cavalry

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:52 am
by Cunningcairn
rbodleyscott wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 am
Cunningcairn wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:13 am Can a protected, above average, LSp cavalry unit receive a charge from an armoured, above average, lancer in good going without evading?
Set the situation up in the Editor and try it.

My guess is that it would stand if the lancer starts in an adjacent square, because of the risk of being caught, but that does depend on how great the disparity in combat power is. If the disparity is great enough, it will evade anyway despite the risk of being caught. And there is a small random adjustment to the combat power estimate before the decision is made - so if the decision is very close the random element may kick in.

If the lancer starts further away, I would expect it to always evade.
The charge was for 3 squares before contacting but to my surprise the LSp cavalry did not evade. The lancer had an advantage in impact being lance and also would have an advantage in latter melees being armoured. Both units were steady without prior casualties in good going.

Re: Evading Cavalry

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:52 pm
by rbodleyscott
Cunningcairn wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:52 am
rbodleyscott wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 am
Cunningcairn wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:13 am Can a protected, above average, LSp cavalry unit receive a charge from an armoured, above average, lancer in good going without evading?
Set the situation up in the Editor and try it.

My guess is that it would stand if the lancer starts in an adjacent square, because of the risk of being caught, but that does depend on how great the disparity in combat power is. If the disparity is great enough, it will evade anyway despite the risk of being caught. And there is a small random adjustment to the combat power estimate before the decision is made - so if the decision is very close the random element may kick in.

If the lancer starts further away, I would expect it to always evade.
The charge was for 3 squares before contacting but to my surprise the LSp cavalry did not evade. The lancer had an advantage in impact being lance and also would have an advantage in latter melees being armoured. Both units were steady without prior casualties in good going.
Maybe they had used up their evade earlier in the turn, or had evaded from pursuers during automatic movement phase between the turns (which counts as part of the following turn)

Re: Evading Cavalry

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:49 pm
by Cunningcairn
rbodleyscott wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:52 pm
Cunningcairn wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:52 am
rbodleyscott wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:42 am

Set the situation up in the Editor and try it.

My guess is that it would stand if the lancer starts in an adjacent square, because of the risk of being caught, but that does depend on how great the disparity in combat power is. If the disparity is great enough, it will evade anyway despite the risk of being caught. And there is a small random adjustment to the combat power estimate before the decision is made - so if the decision is very close the random element may kick in.

If the lancer starts further away, I would expect it to always evade.
The charge was for 3 squares before contacting but to my surprise the LSp cavalry did not evade. The lancer had an advantage in impact being lance and also would have an advantage in latter melees being armoured. Both units were steady without prior casualties in good going.
Maybe they had used up their evade earlier in the turn, or had evaded from pursuers during automatic movement phase between the turns (which counts as part of the following turn)
No it definitely had not moved at all for 2 to 3 turns as it was protecting the flank.