Slitherine

rob_tomcat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:30 pm Loki I appreciate your response.

Here is the situation I have just tried - a slightly different situation to the one originally reported but generating a similar response.

I have a Roman army garrisoned within Latium city walls, 13 units with CP 46 in one stack. Just before I hit end of the turn, I ask to generate an additional 4 military units with CP 44 in Latium. At the end of the turn the Samnium army arrives fresh in Latium at the same time as the 4 additional Latium units are generated and starts fighting just these 4 units, NOT the 13 units inside the Latium walls. Quickly slaughtering 3 of those 4 new units and not touching the 13 units of the army inside the Latium walls, the Samnium army moves into Campania and slaughters the 1 unit from Latium that survived and escaped the Latium battle.

So if those 4 new units in Latium were generated inside the walls as you suggest they would be, how come the invading Samnites only attack those 4 new units in a battle and not the remaining 13 units inside Latium? My belief is that those 4 new units were generated in the province, not inside the city walls as I would have hoped for under the circumstances.

So I am asking for an option to generate new units either inside the city walls or in the province depending upon circumstances.

Rob

Lysimachos wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:54 pm Maybe it really works as loki says.
In the routine firstly new units are generated in the province, then attacks happens (firstly regarding units outside the walls, expecially if the attacker hasn't set the storming option), if no attack is ongoing the new units reach the existing stack inside the walls.
Logistically speaking, it does sense.
Units are created in the whole region/province and not just in the walled city.
So, before stacking with the existing ones, they need time to reach the new location and, in the meanwhile, are subject to enemy attacks.

On the same issue another question, though.
Why, when owning a province, units are generated only in the capital and there is no way to have them recruited in a single, specific region?

Some clarity on this. Assuming your goal is to ensure that recruited units maximise their XP on recruitment (& you have formed the province).

Then - training ground/barracks/archery/castrum equitatum/castrum cataphractae/master fletcher - need to go to your regional capital. That is where fresh units appear.

If you just want to trigger unit types then the barracks/castrun cataphractae can be anywhere in the province. But since they have a dual role you may as well maximise the benefits. Stables are a good eg of a build where you like option so can help get the higher defensive buildings unlocked in a region.

The 'master' buildings work anywhere as their military role is to upgrade existing units. The fletcher is an exception as it has a recruitment role too but the master armorer follows off the armorer building (build anywhere - again may help you get 3*tier 1 military buildings) and the stable master follows off the stables.


So to summarise - if it gives XP on recruitment = provincial capital; if it upgrades existing units = anywhere, if it gives fortifications or military equipment = anywhere

loki100 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:48 pm thats how it works at the moment - from a response I left on the Steam forums:

Some clarity on this. Assuming your goal is to ensure that recruited units maximise their XP on recruitment (& you have formed the province).


So to summarise - if it gives XP on recruitment = provincial capital; if it upgrades existing units = anywhere, if it gives fortifications or military equipment = anywhere

vakarr wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:45 am

loki100 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:48 pm thats how it works at the moment - from a response I left on the Steam forums:

Some clarity on this. Assuming your goal is to ensure that recruited units maximise their XP on recruitment (& you have formed the province).


So to summarise - if it gives XP on recruitment = provincial capital; if it upgrades existing units = anywhere, if it gives fortifications or military equipment = anywhere

When I asked about this on this forum, I was told the opposite, has this changed? I was told the XP increase applied anywhere in the province while the "Master" upgrade only applied in the region it was situated. So you can build the Training Ground, Archer etc anywhere in the province but if you want the "Master" upgrade to apply when it is built then the "Master" building has to be in the provincial capital.