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Lch missiles?
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:28 am
by Fayzer0
Hi All
Please can someone clarify whether Ancient Briton Lch have missile capability (ie 2" range) as they are allowed to skirmish and evade if one rank deep (although not classed as skirmishers) but the lists have them down only as Light Spear armed.
thanks
Martyn
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:08 pm
by batesmotel
I beleive they are treated similarly to the way spear armed cavalry which are also allowed to evade if in a single rank, but are not allowed to shoot.
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:24 pm
by lawrenceg
IF the army list has them down as Light Spear and no Javelin (which is the case) , then they can't shoot. Light spear is an impact capability, not a shooting capability.
Yes, this does make Ancient British Chariots pretty rubbish. Stick a BG of slingers or javelinmen in front of them to compensate.
The light horse is listed as Javelin, Light Spear and can shoot, Javelin being a shooting capability.
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:27 pm
by daleivan
lawrenceg wrote:IF the army list has them down as Light Spear and no Javelin (which is the case) , then they can't shoot. Light spear is an impact capability, not a shooting capability.
Yes, this does make Ancient British Chariots pretty rubbish. Stick a BG of slingers or javelinmen in front of them to compensate.
The light horse is listed as Javelin, Light Spear and can shoot, Javelin being a shooting capability.
I have a good friend building Ancient British and feels the same way. I haven't actually used LCH with lt spear but it seems to be they compare with say protected superior cav with lt spear and could function the same way: threaten flanks, go after enemy skirmishers, evade, pin etc. That's my take at any rate.
Dale
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:55 pm
by lawrenceg
daleivan wrote:lawrenceg wrote:IF the army list has them down as Light Spear and no Javelin (which is the case) , then they can't shoot. Light spear is an impact capability, not a shooting capability.
Yes, this does make Ancient British Chariots pretty rubbish. Stick a BG of slingers or javelinmen in front of them to compensate.
The light horse is listed as Javelin, Light Spear and can shoot, Javelin being a shooting capability.
I have a good friend building Ancient British and feels the same way. I haven't actually used LCH with lt spear but it seems to be they compare with say protected superior cav with lt spear and could function the same way: threaten flanks, go after enemy skirmishers, evade, pin etc. That's my take at any rate.
Dale
That is pretty much it, they are roughly the same as cavalry superior protected light spear, but with the important differences of 2 dice per base in melee AND ignoring armour effects (so they are only - POA vs armoured sword instead of --). They do have their uses, as you suggest, but they are not like heavy chariots or superior armoured sword cavalry that can just march up and fight almost anything on even or better terms. Once you get into melee you are nearly always fighting at a - so you need to really make use of all those extra dice.
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:40 pm
by ColeF
lawrenceg wrote:IF the army list has them down as Light Spear and no Javelin (which is the case) , then they can't shoot. Light spear is an impact capability, not a shooting capability.
Yes, this does make Ancient British Chariots pretty rubbish. (cut)
That's why Ilike indian chariots.
