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Any reference for Battle of Taginae that...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:43 am
by melm
stating Byzantine dismounted archers have ditch to protect them?
I searched in Procopius work but found none to show archers have the ditches.
Re: Any reference for Battle of Taginae that...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:42 pm
by Paul59
melm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:43 am
stating Byzantine dismounted archers have ditch to protect them?
I searched in Procopius work but found none to show archers have the ditches.
Hi melm,
In Medieval Warfare Magazine (vol VI, Issue 3, page 20) their maps of the battle show the Byzantine archers protected by lines of stakes. Now I don't know where they got that information from, I don't remember reading it in Procopius, but from the point of view of making an FOG2 scenario it made a lot of sense. After all, how will a line of dismounted archers stand up to a vast horde of Gothic lancers without some help? We don't have stakes in FOG2, so to I used ditches as the next best thing.
cheers
Paul
Re: Any reference for Battle of Taginae that...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:47 pm
by julianbarker
Belesarius used ditches at Dara in 530 so it is perfectly reasonable that given time to prepare the position, Byzantine armies of the period would use ditches and other defensive impediments.
Re: Any reference for Battle of Taginae that...
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:04 am
by melm
Paul59 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:42 pm
melm wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:43 am
stating Byzantine dismounted archers have ditch to protect them?
I searched in Procopius work but found none to show archers have the ditches.
Hi melm,
In Medieval Warfare Magazine (vol VI, Issue 3, page 20) their maps of the battle show the Byzantine archers protected by lines of stakes. Now I don't know where they got that information from, I don't remember reading it in Procopius, but from the point of view of making an FOG2 scenario it made a lot of sense. After all, how will a line of dismounted archers stand up to a vast horde of Gothic lancers without some help? We don't have stakes in FOG2, so to I used ditches as the next best thing.
cheers
Paul
Thanks Paul! It's a pity that I have no access to Medieval Warfare Magazine.
We have stakes in Sengoku Jidai. I suppose it could be imported to FOGII?
Re: Any reference for Battle of Taginae that...
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:41 am
by rbodleyscott
Actually those aren’t stakes.