French Ordonnance vs Late Medieval Germans
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:54 am
Saturday, November 15th, Greg Tronnes and I got together at Tower Games to play Field
of Glory. We had an historical matchup of French Ordonance vs Later
Medieval Germans at 650 pts.
My army list was: Later Medieval German, 1494 (Maximilian)
Commander in Chief - 1 - Field Commander - 50pts
Sub generals - 2 - Troop Commander - 70pts
Mercenary Men at Arms - 6- average, heavily armored, drilled knights
lancers, swordsmen - 126pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Mounted Crossbowmen - 4 - average, armored, drilled cavalry,
crossbow, swordsmen - 56pts
Handgunners - 4 - Average, unprotected, drilled light foot, firearm -
16pts
Handgunners - 4 - Average, unprotected, drilled light foot, firearm -
16pts
Crossbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium foot, crossbow -
42pts
Crossbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium foot, crossbow -
42pts
Halbardiers - 4 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 32pts
Halbardiers - 4 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 32pts
Archers - 8 - Poor, unprotected, drilled light foot, bow - 24pts
12 BG - 10 mounted bases, 60 foot bases, 3 commanders - 650pts
Greg Tronnes' list was: French Ordonnance, Post 1480
CinC - Field Commander
2 Sub-generals - Troop Commanders
2 BG Ordonnance Men at Arms - 4 - superior, heavily armored, drilled
knights, lancers, swordsmen - 104pts
2 BG Ordonnance Longbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium
foot, longbow, swordsman - 54pts
2 BG Polearmsmen - 4 - Average, armored, undrilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 36pts
1 BG Francs Archers - 6 - Poor, unprotected, undrilled medium foot,
longbow - 24pts
1 BG Swiss Pikemen - 8 - Superior, protected, drilled heavy foot,
pike - 64pts
1 BG Ordonnance Mounted Longbowmen- 4 - average, protected, drilled
cavalry, lance, swordsmen - 40pts
Greg won terrain and chose "agricultural". The battlefield was mostly clear with a large open field near my right table edge, on Seiur Tronnes' side of the center line, a small open field tucked into the corner on my left, a medium sized vineyard on the left, and a medium sized plantation in the corner on Seiur Tronnes' right. The line drew up with my pike in the center, screened by handgunners, with a small "forelorn hope" of halbardiers just in front of the pike. My
crossbows were on the left, supported by a small BG of halbardiers, and my mounted were on the right, mounted crossbow on the flank. Hidden in the vineyard were the archers.
Seiur Tronnes lined up his Gendarmes facing my Ritter, with a BG of longbowmen ready to take control of the open field. His center was the Swiss pike, flanked either side by polearmsmen. On his right was another BG of Longbows and his lancers. The Francs archers stayed near his camp.
The battle progressed with our lines advancing.
The French quickly took the open field on my right and began to shower my mounted crossbows with arrows. The mounted crossbows were trying to get a shot at the French gendarmes but never made it. In just 3 volleys the German cav broke and routed directly in front of the German men at arms, causing them to be disrupted, then routed through them, dropping them to fragmented.
I sent a sub-general to try to rally the fleeing cav and sent my CinC to help the knights. Quick bolstering brought the men at arms back to steady before the Gendarmes charged them, but Maximilian was unhorsed and captured in the ensueing impact. The outnumbered and outclassed German knights were eventually overwhelmed by the French gendarmes, but did claim a French general before they collapsed. In the center things were not much better for the Germans. The handgunners advanced to shoot at the oncoming enemy, but failed to make a dent, retiring in good order. The "forelorn hope" crashed into the pike and
polearmsmen, but was quickly overwhelmed without causing any serious disorganization in the French formation. My pike block was, however, as I had to leave room for the routing survivors. When the Landsknechts did finally hit the enemy it was in a disorganized fashion and failed to do any real damage. On my left, the French longbow charged in concert with a BG of polearmsmen and quickly wiped out a BG of crossbows, as well as the left most pike BG. My only success was
destroying a BG of polearmsmen that got double teamed by the other two pike BGs. We called the game after I had lost 4 BGs to his 1. A resounding French victory.
Greg Boeser[/img]
of Glory. We had an historical matchup of French Ordonance vs Later
Medieval Germans at 650 pts.
My army list was: Later Medieval German, 1494 (Maximilian)
Commander in Chief - 1 - Field Commander - 50pts
Sub generals - 2 - Troop Commander - 70pts
Mercenary Men at Arms - 6- average, heavily armored, drilled knights
lancers, swordsmen - 126pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Pikemen - 8 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, pike - 48pts
Mounted Crossbowmen - 4 - average, armored, drilled cavalry,
crossbow, swordsmen - 56pts
Handgunners - 4 - Average, unprotected, drilled light foot, firearm -
16pts
Handgunners - 4 - Average, unprotected, drilled light foot, firearm -
16pts
Crossbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium foot, crossbow -
42pts
Crossbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium foot, crossbow -
42pts
Halbardiers - 4 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 32pts
Halbardiers - 4 - Average, protected, drilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 32pts
Archers - 8 - Poor, unprotected, drilled light foot, bow - 24pts
12 BG - 10 mounted bases, 60 foot bases, 3 commanders - 650pts
Greg Tronnes' list was: French Ordonnance, Post 1480
CinC - Field Commander
2 Sub-generals - Troop Commanders
2 BG Ordonnance Men at Arms - 4 - superior, heavily armored, drilled
knights, lancers, swordsmen - 104pts
2 BG Ordonnance Longbowmen - 6 - Average, protected, drilled medium
foot, longbow, swordsman - 54pts
2 BG Polearmsmen - 4 - Average, armored, undrilled heavy foot, heavy
weapon - 36pts
1 BG Francs Archers - 6 - Poor, unprotected, undrilled medium foot,
longbow - 24pts
1 BG Swiss Pikemen - 8 - Superior, protected, drilled heavy foot,
pike - 64pts
1 BG Ordonnance Mounted Longbowmen- 4 - average, protected, drilled
cavalry, lance, swordsmen - 40pts
Greg won terrain and chose "agricultural". The battlefield was mostly clear with a large open field near my right table edge, on Seiur Tronnes' side of the center line, a small open field tucked into the corner on my left, a medium sized vineyard on the left, and a medium sized plantation in the corner on Seiur Tronnes' right. The line drew up with my pike in the center, screened by handgunners, with a small "forelorn hope" of halbardiers just in front of the pike. My
crossbows were on the left, supported by a small BG of halbardiers, and my mounted were on the right, mounted crossbow on the flank. Hidden in the vineyard were the archers.
Seiur Tronnes lined up his Gendarmes facing my Ritter, with a BG of longbowmen ready to take control of the open field. His center was the Swiss pike, flanked either side by polearmsmen. On his right was another BG of Longbows and his lancers. The Francs archers stayed near his camp.
The battle progressed with our lines advancing.
The French quickly took the open field on my right and began to shower my mounted crossbows with arrows. The mounted crossbows were trying to get a shot at the French gendarmes but never made it. In just 3 volleys the German cav broke and routed directly in front of the German men at arms, causing them to be disrupted, then routed through them, dropping them to fragmented.
I sent a sub-general to try to rally the fleeing cav and sent my CinC to help the knights. Quick bolstering brought the men at arms back to steady before the Gendarmes charged them, but Maximilian was unhorsed and captured in the ensueing impact. The outnumbered and outclassed German knights were eventually overwhelmed by the French gendarmes, but did claim a French general before they collapsed. In the center things were not much better for the Germans. The handgunners advanced to shoot at the oncoming enemy, but failed to make a dent, retiring in good order. The "forelorn hope" crashed into the pike and
polearmsmen, but was quickly overwhelmed without causing any serious disorganization in the French formation. My pike block was, however, as I had to leave room for the routing survivors. When the Landsknechts did finally hit the enemy it was in a disorganized fashion and failed to do any real damage. On my left, the French longbow charged in concert with a BG of polearmsmen and quickly wiped out a BG of crossbows, as well as the left most pike BG. My only success was
destroying a BG of polearmsmen that got double teamed by the other two pike BGs. We called the game after I had lost 4 BGs to his 1. A resounding French victory.
Greg Boeser[/img]
