Slitherine

Kinking the column leads to some interesting situations. One it the "Rear". Is the BG's rear based on the front stand, or back stand?

MkV wrote:Kinking the column leads to some interesting situations. One it the "Rear". Is the BG's rear based on the front stand, or back stand?

Both, at least for purposes of flank or rear charges. See p.55.

Marc

Marc,

I think he is asking for evade purposes. What direction could they evade in if kinked, and charged in a way that they could choose to evade to their rear.





Clay

Primarch wrote:Marc,

I think he is asking for evade purposes. What direction could they evade in if kinked, and charged in a way that they could choose to evade to their rear.

Clay

Since to evade to the rear you must first turn 180 degrees I don't see how it could be other than to the rear of the rearmost base, so the rearmost base turns 180 and the other bases line up behind it in legal formation and then you make the evade move.


It would be an added penalty for kinky column behavior if after turning 180 in place it had to then wheel to 180 degrees opposite the initial direction of the front of the column in order to continue the evade.

I should have thought it was the opposite--the front base indicating the current purpose and direction, with the others trailing behind. A good question, this.

MarkSieber wrote:I should have thought it was the opposite--the front base indicating the current purpose and direction, with the others trailing behind. A good question, this.

And quite kinky. Sorry, couldn't resist

Dale

I'm kicking this back up in hopes the designers will weigh in on what constitutes the rear of a kinked column for evading 'directly to their own rear'. Front base or rear base, or something else?

Thanks!

Since a BG wishing to evade directly to it's own rear turns 180, a kinked column would have to use the rear edge of it's rearmost element as the new front edge after the 180 degree turn. The column would still be kinked. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

More troublesome is how to deal with a kinked column that is choosing to flee directly away from the charge, especially if charged in the flank or rear.

gozerius wrote:Since a BG wishing to evade directly to it's own rear turns 180, a kinked column would have to use the rear edge of it's rearmost element as the new front edge after the 180 degree turn. The column would still be kinked. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

More troublesome is how to deal with a kinked column that is choosing to flee directly away from the charge, especially if charged in the flank or rear.

This is not a problem at all, the procedure specified on page 66 works perfectly well. You just have to remember that the column continues to move as a column, i.e. all bases follow the front base if you start with a 180 turn followed by a wheel. If you start with a 90 degree turn then the BG will end up as a rectangular block and evade as normal.

Since a BG wishing to evade directly to it's own rear turns 180, a kinked column would have to use the rear edge of it's rearmost element as the new front edge after the 180 degree turn. The column would still be kinked. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

I guess this isn't intuitive for me--the guys in the front of the BG would turn to run before waiting to see what those way at the tail of the column are doing. I don't have a problem using the rear stand, if that's the game convention, but it seems a bit strange.

I have a question under what circumstances did your column kink? It is not easy to sustain a kink, I thought.

The kink was left at the end of a move.