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Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:04 pm
by Admiral_Horthy
What should be the difference between Wheel and Halftrack movement type? I did this unit... I changed chassis to halftrack from wheel... but there is no difference in movement at all. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:13 pm
by terminator
File chassis.txt :
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There are 2 road factors : one for the Dirt road and one for the Paved Road (?)
There is another file
chassis.csv. What is the difference between these 2 files
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:29 pm
by Admiral_Horthy
Aye... seen those. But in-game both work the same. Road or not, they have 8 movement points and move 4 on clear. 2 in forest.
Plus I compared the SdKfz 251 and it was moving the same. My Maultier unit is correct but the movent "chassis" is apparently not!
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:01 pm
by GabeKnight
Admiral_Horthy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:29 pm
Aye... seen those. But in-game both work the same. Road or not, they have 8 movement points and move 4 on clear. 2 in forest.
Plus I compared the SdKfz 251 and it was moving the same. My Maultier unit is correct but the movent "chassis" is apparently not!
One of the devs mentioned that they're switching the chassis TXT to a CSV version in the future.
Did you try modifying one of the values to see a difference (like movement = 20) and if it works at all?
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:17 pm
by Mojko
You can compare terrain movements in the
Unit navigator tool. Just choose transports with wheel and halftrack movement types, hit compare and then hit show terrain button on both units. It will show you movement comparison on all terrains in all climates.
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:53 am
by Admiral_Horthy
Guys... I don't want to modify movement types, I just made a halftracked truck. But exactly your hints proved that there is no difference in-game!
Unit navigator is indeed very useful... PROOF: Opel blitz even has advantage over SdKfz 251 in very special cases (frozen swamp). But the main thing is, there is NO DIFFERENCE!
Stock Chassis.CSV does set a huge difference, but it's not working that way. I did not modify chassis at all, so these must be working like original game.
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:32 am
by terminator
Admiral_Horthy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:53 am
Guys... I don't want to modify movement types, I just made a halftracked truck. But exactly your hints proved that there is no difference in-game!
Unit navigator is indeed very useful... PROOF: Opel blitz even has advantage over SdKfz 251 in very special cases (frozen swamp). But the main thing is, there is NO DIFFERENCE!
Stock Chassis.CSV does set a huge difference, but it's not working that way. I did not modify chassis at all, so these must be working like original game.
...and the Climate changes nothing for the difference between Wheel and Halftrack
The tables of movements should be revised.
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:11 am
by bebro
Admiral_Horthy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:29 pm
Aye... seen those. But in-game both work the same. Road or not, they have 8 movement points and move 4 on clear. 2 in forest.
Thx for reporting this. We will check that.
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:15 pm
by Admiral_Horthy
Indeed there is difference between Chassis.TXT and Chassis.CSV.
Also, Track_Light has value of 2 for forest, while all of Wheel, Halftrack and Track have 6. That mean light track can move 4 in forest, everybody can move only 2.
OK, I also look into it, there can be more of such.
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:46 pm
by terminator
Admiral_Horthy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:15 pm
Indeed there is difference between Chassis.TXT and Chassis.CSV.
Also, Track_Light has value of 2 for forest, while all of Wheel, Halftrack and Track have 6. That mean light track can move 4 in forest, everybody can move only 2.
OK, I also look into it, there can be more of such.
This means that
chassis.csv is the good file and
chassis.txt is obsolete ?
(In
chassis.txt, forest = 3 for HALFTRACK)
Re: Difference between Wheel and Halftrack??
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:57 pm
by bebro
Admiral_Horthy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:15 pm
Also, Track_Light has value of 2 for forest, while all of Wheel, Halftrack and Track have 6. That mean light track can move 4 in forest, everybody can move only 2.
I think light track moving better there is intended. IIRC that stems back from OOB Pacific, where light armor was better suited in certain areas.