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sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:24 pm
by cutydt02
after having the "baucommando becker" specialized, i dont have the sd kfz 135/1 motorized artillery as describtion. i found at all shoping tabs and cant find them.
do you got it ? the marder seen useless to me because of the italy lancia 90/53 so the 135/1 is the thing im waiting for this specialized
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:14 pm
by terminator
Missing unit and nevertheless it would be very useful :

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Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 11:08 pm
by kondi754
My post from Beta forum:
Idea for sec objective's reward
Postby kondi754 » 03 May 2018 00:07
Below info about 15cm sIG 33 (Sf) on Pzkw II chassis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_cm_sIG ... en_II_(Sf)
This self-propelled gun was produced in the number of 12 copies and ALL copies were used only in North Africa
I think such unit would be an excellent reward for completing some more difficult task
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:38 am
by cutydt02
Well, im looking for mobile artillery better than wespe. Hope they will release the beast soon
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:40 pm
by 13obo
So to recap, the unit from the specialization is not implemented (yet)? I'm not complaining, just making sure I don't pick the specialisation (which I probably wouldn't have anyway).
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:59 pm
by Shards
From looking at the data, I'm not sure that this specialisation should have been activated in this Campaign, I can't see anywhere in the data where it's actually used. I'd say Hard Avoid for now
Thanks,
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:36 am
by GabeKnight
Speaking of which, has the "Panzerkeil" specialisation been fixed to NOT give defensive bonuses to the ENEMY instead?
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:22 am
by Shards
GabeKnight wrote:Speaking of which, has the "Panzerkeil" specialisation been fixed to NOT give defensive bonuses to the ENEMY instead?
It was on the list of issues that were being addressed, but I can't tell you for sure if it got fixed in the end... I hereby request a volunteer....
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:10 pm
by GabeKnight
Shards wrote:GabeKnight wrote:Speaking of which, has the "Panzerkeil" specialisation been fixed to NOT give defensive bonuses to the ENEMY instead?
It was on the list of issues that were being addressed, but I can't tell you for sure if it got fixed in the end... I hereby request a volunteer....
Yeah, yeah...volunteer...
So the trait description says:
"When attacking, tanks gain a defensive bonus from friendly tanks which are adjacent to themselves and the target, and posses the "Heavy Treading" trait"
I tried it with the editor. Either I'm not getting the usage of this spec right, or it doesn't do anything (or so it seems at least). In various combinations, I did not see a change in the attack prognosis with or without this spec. Am I doing something wrong?

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I'm just glad the "PAKFront" spec's working right. That's one useful spec if you're depending on StuGs...

Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:53 pm
by 13obo
Gabe, did you try with another tank that doesn't have such low mechanical attack like a PzIV? I think the one you used to test is too weak and probably does decimal damage (0.1-0.2) to the enemy tanks.
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:24 pm
by Halvralf
I can confirm that Panzerkiel doesn't work as intended.
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:28 pm
by cutydt02
Or may be 2 tanks cant trigger that spec ? Can you try 3-4 tanks without flanking enemy?
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:36 pm
by Halvralf
cutydt02 wrote:Or may be 2 tanks cant trigger that spec ? Can you try 3-4 tanks without flanking enemy?
Hmm how do I go with 3-4 tanks and NOT flanking? Nevermind I'll make a full line of defending tanks and a line of attacking ones brb.
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:45 pm
by Halvralf
Halvralf wrote:cutydt02 wrote:Or may be 2 tanks cant trigger that spec ? Can you try 3-4 tanks without flanking enemy?
Hmm how do I go with 3-4 tanks and NOT flanking? Nevermind I'll make a full line of defending tanks and a line of attacking ones brb.
I get no different result when I have 3 tanks around an enemy. The middle one gets same combat predict as I have showed and the two on the sides get slightly better due to flanking mechanism. Specialisation is broken it seems.
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:46 pm
by cutydt02
Halvralf wrote:cutydt02 wrote:Or may be 2 tanks cant trigger that spec ? Can you try 3-4 tanks without flanking enemy?
Hmm how do I go with 3-4 tanks and NOT flanking? Nevermind I'll make a full line of defending tanks and a line of attacking ones brb.
How about three tank and let the middle attack? And i dont know about let more tanks stay behind the main one ?
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:49 pm
by cutydt02
Halvralf wrote:Halvralf wrote:cutydt02 wrote:Or may be 2 tanks cant trigger that spec ? Can you try 3-4 tanks without flanking enemy?
Hmm how do I go with 3-4 tanks and NOT flanking? Nevermind I'll make a full line of defending tanks and a line of attacking ones brb.
I get no different result when I have 3 tanks around an enemy. The middle one gets same combat predict as I have showed and the two on the sides get slightly better due to flanking mechanism. Specialisation is broken it seems.
So sad that i choosed it instead of pakfront. And thisn’t the new spec so i dont know why its still a bug now ???
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:05 pm
by Halvralf
I'll give it a go with some Tigers behind and around a Panzer IV F2!
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:22 pm
by 13obo
Think it's safe to conclude it doesn't work (yet)...
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 6:56 pm
by Halvralf
Halvralf wrote:I'll give it a go with some Tigers behind and around a Panzer IV F2!
Same result I'm afraid. I deployed 3 Panzer IV F2's and surrounded them with Tigers. on the opposing side four T34 mod 42. Same prediction and same reslult in combat (Panzer IV lost two str when attacking)
Re: sd kfz 135/1 sandstorm
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 8:15 pm
by bru888
I added this thread to my unofficial thread of
Current Bugs - Version 6.1.7. As always, no guarantee and no official status are claimed by that thread. It's just an attempt to assist the developers.