Slitherine

Throw Down the Gauntlet
15mm Field of Glory
15 and 16 November 2008
Northmead Bowling, Recreation and Sport Club
- Format:
o 15mm Field of Glory
o 4 foot by 3 foot tables with preset terrain
o Any published (non-beta) list permitted
o 550 points fixed list including fixed order of march/ deployment
o Deployment at 6 and 12 inches rather than 10 and 15 inches
o 5 rounds with Saturday rounds starting at 9, 12 and 3 and Sunday rounds at 10 and 2
o 2.5 hour games, with Umpire calling finishing time with “finish the phase you are in”
o Scoring as per the system to be found on the FoG website (0-25 point system)
o Ambushes and Flank Marches are permitted
o Players are to provide their own dice, but both players are to be permitted to use either player’s dice
o Modified Swiss Chess draw hopefully starting with strangers playing one another
o The umpire will have figures available to play any bye players. The bye player gets whatever points he can wrest from the umpire!
o Prizes for at least 1st, 2nd and 3rd and others at the umpires discretion
o Any official errata or clarifications or FAQ from the website www.fieldofglory.com will be used
- Venue
o The Northmead Bowling, Recreation and Sport Club
o 166 Windsor Road, Northmead, NSW 2152
o This is just a few kilometres out of Parramatta and there is usually ample parking
o There is a pleasant bistro available for lunch
- Entry
o $25 to be sent to:
o Adrian Williams
16th Floor Wardell Chambers
39 Martin Place, Sydney, NSW 2000, or
o contact the organiser at adrian.williams@16wardell.com.au or on 0404 849 211 to arrange payment by transfer or paypal
o Lists emailed in advance to the umpire for checking would be greatly appreciated

Generously Sponsored by The Tin Soldier, Olympian Games and Essex Miniatures Australia

Awesome, a comp that I can actually have the time to go to and its not far from home at all.

Late Medieval Serbs, here we come!!!

It seems that you have two threads running for the same tournament. Suggest that you merge them or delet one so it can avoid confusion and having people missing out on pertinant information.

I would love to see you there - Late Mediaeval Serbs should get a result every round!

Adrian

Yes, a result every round which could be a win or total annihilation.

Considering its 550 points and the deployment zones have been modified, would there be any change to the required minima from each list. My thoughts are that some army lists could potentially take the required minima and have 200 points or so to manouver and choose with. Thats my assumption without looking and calculating other lists.

Have a friend of mine that will be coming as well. We are in the process of play testing our respective lists before we commit to what will work best and send them in.

None of the army lists I have written at 550 points had a problem of too many compulsories. True, the compulsory, and therefore characteristic troops dominated the army, but there was in my opinion, still adequate scope to put your stamp on the army.

Adrian

No worries. Was just a thought. I personally didnt have any issues and like you said, I could put my personal stamp on my list.

First test run tonight against kingdom of Pontus. Hope I can get around those pike on a 4x3foot table and give him some headaches. ^_^

Well the Late Period Serbs had a resounding success. Total annihilation of the forces of Pontus. The HA and Armrd Knights crashed into two offensive spearmen BGs and routed them by the end of the phase sequence, although they were helped by some very bad cohesion rolling on my opponents side. Went to fragmented in one go. They routed, knights crashed into the chariots behind and cleaned them off table as well. Then the pike came in and the knights bounced off them. On the left wing the light horse routed his light horse javelins and, just to tell you how good the Serbs are, he charged my LF archers with his remaining LH which ran away but he caught me in the rear, then failed to hit me and I hit him back and he dropped cohesion. By that time the attrition points equaled his number of BGs lost.

Serbs lost no bases and only had one LF bow disrupted in the end. The signs are good. Next week we go against the Arabs. We will defeat them to....GOD WILLS IT!!!!

Thanks for the report - I am glad the format worked ok in your first game - I will be having a practice run tonight tghough not yet settled on my army choice. I have been running romans a lot and may try something different!

ANW

With the 550 points, the game is fairly quick and the table size works as well. There is some opportunity for flanking. We used the rule books terrain deployment sequence, just reduced the total terrain amount by one for each player. Even then there was lots of terrain. We did go for a full 2 1/2hrs as there were still some rules questions that we needed to resolve. (still in a learning phase)

Hopefully the games can go quicker just enough to have a beer in between.

Im painting my commanders today and hopefully can base them tomorrow.

I had a nice practice game on Friday night - my principate romans (3 TC, Auxiliary Cav 4 bases, Auxiliary LH 4 bases, 3 Legions of 6 bases, 2 slingerspoor 4 bases, 2 auxiliary 4 bases, average, protected) against The Rat with his Later Seleucid wall of pike, thracians, cataphracts, light foot and skythian light horse.

The table had one gentle hill, and one steep hill, each filed away on my right in the corners and having no effect. There was a plantation and a wood on my deployment line and a centrally located wood.

The legions lined up behind the slingers between the left table edge and the central wood. The auxiliary were heading for the wood and the cavalry and light cavalry were devoted to skirmishing on the right flank.

The seleucids had a line of pikes and thracians up against my legions. Their Thureophoroi headed for the woods. The cataphracts, light foot and redeployed skyths moved to oppose my cavalry and light horse.

As always happens the legions got into the pikes and the pikes flattened them. My romans however souped up have never beaten pikes yet under these rules. My auxiliary quickly dispatched the thureophoroi and eventually his thracians routed too.

At the end of the game the cataphracts were still fighting the auxiliary cavalry who were on the way out, but my legions had routed as had my light horse and a few other bits and pieces were fragged.

An enjoyable game in a format I really like - 18-7 to the Seleucids.

Adrian

I played with my Ptolemy list several months ago and had my pike block routed in one turn, that is the impact phase and melee phase against a Roman Legion BG. It was a "thou shall not pass" statmenet from me that fizzled. The pike had a woods to the right and a steep hill to the left so nothing but the legion coming in could get them. Totaly safe, right.....wrong. I will never forget my utter devastation as the legions rolled in, beat me in impact, I rolled and went fragmented, then in impact they won again and routed me. So it does happen and it did to me. I wont talk about the time I went up against Varangian guards, now there is a tank in FOG.

Now last night my practice continued with the Late Period Serbs. This time they went up against the Navaresse, unbeaten in all combats they had. Needless to say it was another resounding win for the Serbs. Total annihilation and destruction of the Navaresse forces without one base or BG loss. It was also a carbon copy of the previous test game. The first major combat, this time between my kings HA knights and his HA knights, resulted in him loosing impact, going fragged from the cohesion roll and then loosing the melee and routing. The English bow, 2 BGs of 6 bases routed from the constant shooting of Serbian light foot archers with the assistance of Cumans (LH archers)

The Serbian Light Horse Lancers once again posed trouble. They are so super fast and can get around flanks so easy that it causes problems almost immediately.

We also discovered an interesting point with the rules. As you may be aware, LF skirmishers can not charge non-skirmish BGs, even in the flanks, in open terrain. Well we looked up the definition of open terrain as the English MF longbow were sitting in uneven terrain piece that does not cause any disorder or movement or combat restrictions. My opponent thought he was safe as he faced of against Serbian light foot archers to the front and Serbain LH lancers to the rear. He turned to shoot at the lancers as only 4 bases and easier to cause cohesion test. Thats when I said "I can charge you in the flank now." He said "no" and we looked at the rules which confirmed they could charge them. He moved the archers back to face the LF as it was a better option. It was an interesting point.

Just a question on the deployment. I dont remember seeing any reference to this in your tournament notes. Seeing that terrain will be pre-determined, how would deployment work with respect to who will deploy from which long edge of the table. Terrain can adversly affect someones deployment. My suggestion is that you roll your pre-battle initiative as per the rules and add your modifier. The winner gets to choose which long table edge they will deploy their troops. Just a thought if this aspect wasnt considered.

DVeight wrote:Just a question on the deployment. I dont remember seeing any reference to this in your tournament notes. Seeing that terrain will be pre-determined, how would deployment work with respect to who will deploy from which long edge of the table. Terrain can adversly affect someones deployment. My suggestion is that you roll your pre-battle initiative as per the rules and add your modifier. The winner gets to choose which long table edge they will deploy their troops. Just a thought if this aspect wasnt considered.

That is what will be done, as at MOAB in 25mm.

Adrian

Ahhh, beautiful. Thanks Adrian.

Should be sending my list through end of next week. One more go at playtesting and if result is another resounding victory then I wont play around with a list that is working for me. My opponent is going to keep his army choice as a surprise but I am fairly certain he is going to go with the Serbian traditional enemy, the Turks.

The entries are starting to flow in

ANW

Had another play test last night. Went up against the Kingdom of Pontus again as my friend decided he will go with that army at the competition. Once again, the Late period Serbs held their nerve and this time took victory from the clutches of defeat.

Previous two games lost no bases, this time one BG of archers routed through loss of cohesion tests alone. LH Serbian lance cavalry lost a base in each BG and it became so hard to pass cohesion once that 25% loss applies in the minus column. Nevertheless one BG held his nerve and with a general, fought a LH BG of javelin while fragmented and holding nerve for three more turns until my friend conceded as the centre just crumbled under the weight of knights.

So happy with my list and will send it through by weekend. My friend will pay my entry fee as my prize for defeating him three times in succession. (He wants more punishment, we have a game on Friday. I will use Ptolemy this time to give him variation) I will buy him beers at the comp to make him feel better after Pontus fails to deliver again.

Last week shook it up a little going with Later Ptolemy against his Pontic army. Its the list my friend is sticking with so good for him to have some variation as I am sure there will be a good number of heavies out there.

It was like a boxing contest. I had him on the ropes to start off with and then this huge swing in his favour and I blame my Cretan archers for routing. They went up against a motley crew of archers on a steep hill and being superior our rolls were much better and I had his archers fragmented. Didnt take the opportunity to charge as I thought he could intercept with his spears that were next to the hill but I didnt realise a key factor in he rule. Cant intercept through intervening terrain or terrain that will disorder. So my shooting next round was crap, he brought his archers back to disrupted and then charged me. I tell you what, that + for being uphil makes a huge difference. They routed me in two turns.

Then the middle was a meat grinder between my pikes and his spears and pikes. I had him on the ropes than he got me in flank and turned the table. Then my other pike gets in and swings other way but he gets around flank and routs him to and by then my cavalry finally comes around the flank (there was some bad terrain in the middle) and charges the flanks and his spears go frag. (You can tell I love talking about our battles ^_^ )

Based on the basic attrition rules I had lost 8 attrition points and had 9 BGs. He lost 10 attrition points with 10 BGs. So close.

Tonight I give him.............SPARTA!!!!!!

Sparta win!!! Hoplites rampage through his heavies. Lost one big BG of hoplites though.

Now, with less than 2 weeks to go, my unfortunate friend is rethinking his list and choice of army. They havent won one play test. You wouldnt be looking forward to loosing every game at the comp if this is their fate.

Persevere - I had my first victory with Romans on Friday night - against Ottomans who I had stuffed up with terrain.

Pontic should do well in open comp.

Adrian