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Question regarding Terrain types

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:07 am
by vindahl
Hi, I have a somehow simple question(s) about the terrain types, and how they influence the outcome of battle. I have now completed The Pacific and Rising Sun, and I am on my last mission in Morning Sun, so perhaps it is a bit late to ask this - but hopefully I can learn something for the next campaigns...

The case is that I am not certain if certain terrain types are best for me and my units or the enemy - although I can see the numbers when moving around, I am still afraid that I miss out on something - And it feels like there is SO much else also to take notice of and remember in this game. :shock:

I know that all units in rivers are bad - very bad - but would it be good for me to place infantry units in cities or forest or on hills or mountains, if I am defending myself - or does it help the attacker more? So, should I place myself in these places, or is it better to lure the enemy into a forest, and then attack from a plain terrain? And what about the other kinds of units? Is cavalry and tanks best on plain terrain?
I don't quite understand how to use the artillery units yet - they never seem to add any damage to the enemy. Are they better if the enemy is in a forest or a city, or are they worse?

I know it is quite a lot to ask, but I realize I have so many questions still... :D I really love this game, and I hope someone will perhaps give me a little advice on how to use the units... Thanks!!

Re: Question regarding Terrain types

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:58 am
by Horst
Greetings, this recent topic here is a good start to browse for plenty info:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 64&t=82703

Re: Question regarding Terrain types

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:20 pm
by bru888
The three pages from the manual below should help. Also, there is this resource that will tell you how terrain affects the performances of units: Unit Navigator

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Re: Question regarding Terrain types

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:33 pm
by PoorOldSpike
vindahl wrote:..I know it is quite a lot to ask, but I realize I have so many questions still... :D I really love this game, and I hope someone will perhaps give me a little advice on how to use the units... Thanks!!
Keep asking your questions mate, basically just put your units into mountains/forests/difficult terrain etc to give them protection because anything is better than standing in the open..:)
Some terrain gives better protection than others, here's a test I did in the editor to find out how terrain affects combat, I simply placed a line of German Infantry '45 in every terrain type including rivers and bridges, then lined up an attacking force of Brit Infantry '45 and logged the predicted readouts one by one.

The units stats are evenly matched-
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Old hands will already know all this of course, so the chart is mainly aimed at myself and newcomers.
(If anybody wants to comment on anything in it that I may have overlooked, please go ahead)..:)

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BRITISH INF 45 attacking GERMAN INF 45
Both 10 strength, 10 efficiency,no experience,clear dry summer, no trenches.
(Note there's an Asian Town and an Asian Village, both different)

RANKINGS, best defensive terrain from top (best) to bottom (worst)
(Red figures mean the attackers losses will probably be higher than the defenders losses, so if we're the defender the reds are definitely the best ones to hunker in)
0 0+ MOUNTAIN
0+ 1 JUNGLE
2 2+ EURO VILLE/ ASIAN VILL
2 3+ DEFENDER ON BANK
1+ 2 FOREST/ TOWN/ ASIAN TOWN
1 1+ DIFFICULT TERR/ DENSE FOREST/ CITY
2 2 SWAMP
2+ 2+ RICE
3 3 OPEN/FARMLAND/BEACH/TROP VILL/AIRFLD/SCORCHED/BOTH UNITS IN RIVER
3+ 2 DEFENDER IN RIVER
(Note: In winter/snow a defender on a river bank still gets a combat bonus if attacked by a unit which is standing in the frozen river, but not as big a bonus as in summer)
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Bridges have no effect on combat.
Below: Cities, towns and villages on rivers are still bad places to defend in because the defenders feet will be wet.
2 1 CITY on river
2+ 1 TOWN/ ASIAN TOWN on river
3 1+ EURO VILL/ ASIAN VILL on river
3+ 2 TROP VILL on river

Re: Question regarding Terrain types

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:35 am
by vindahl
Thanks a lot for your help, it was a very good visual help you provided there PoorOldSpike... :)