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Lesson Learned
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:12 pm
by AnalogGamer
"Well I won't do that again" epiphany. I have no doubt this is old news to many.
Upgrading and over-strength for Moscow '43. I have three Pioneer '43. To upgrade from 11 to 12 it costs 49 prestige...
...for two out of three.
One of them has a 250/1 half-track instead of a stock 251/1.
Sixty-four(64) prestige to go from 11 to 12.
15 prestige premium for that frickin' half-track. Don't even remember buying it. Who knows how long I have been paying for this, since I go in at 11 or 12 every battle and come out... less.
That extra move is NOT worth it for those who run in over-strength.

Costing me about 25 or so prestige every battle before it gets on the field.
I go into USA battles at 13. That would have been pricey indeed I bet.
Three lashes with a wet trout and back to the stock half-track.
EDIT - Trying to imagine how many people went and did a major force-wide upgrade to those puppies... (shudders)
Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:45 am
by captainjack
http://slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... ge#p455948
As much to show that you're in good company, as much for the tips (though they might be useful).
Incidentally, horse transport is not only cheap, but very handy - especially in snow and desert - as it doesn't run out of fuel and can be faster than trucks.
Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:22 am
by PoorOldSpike
Yeah I've always been a maths dummy, and having to do all that number-juggling in my head to play Pz Corps is a pain, I'm just a grunt wargamer not a friggin accountant..

Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:55 pm
by dalfrede
Horse transport requires Nico's equipment file. It is included in the game but not activated.
I upgrade gifted heroes to horse from half track.
Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:46 pm
by proline
Transports are shockingly expensive when you factor in what they do to your replacement costs over the whole GC. That I don't mind, as it adds strategic tension about whether to buy one or not. However, combine that with the fact that they can't be sold or moved to other units means that the right answer is often never to buy one. Furthermore, there is basically nothing that justifies the price of the 200 prestige transport over the 100 prestige one, meaning that there's a fun unit I never get to use. I buy one for my one unit of bridging engineers since they never take damage.
Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:52 pm
by AnalogGamer
While I may never use the 250/1 again, I could not imagine not using transport. I have three INF, two Gren, and three Pioneer. They ride, and they ride in armor... always. No walking, no trucks. The costs for that is already factored in to my mental muscle memory, so it is just the cost of doing business for me.
My artillery also get 251s unless they need the prime mover, or are self-propelled.
I had bad experiences early in my career when trucks would get seen and blapped by air power. I also have many cross-country routes that are ingrained in my tactical outlook. Could not imagine being road-bound.
The organic trains that are supplied have been getting my attention lately, and I have considered altering transport to accommodate a pair of train-riding infantry.
Could not imagine walking pioneers and grenadiers across Russia.

Not unless I was purposely going for the defensive campaign path.
Re: Lesson Learned
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:19 pm
by proline
Well it's up to you how you enjoy playing the game. I myself also use some of the $100 transports, but I also only play on Field Marshall. The people who play on the higher difficulty levels generally use very few transports meaning that they don't help you 'win' the game.