Thoughts on 43 Upgrades and future plans
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:05 am
Ok here is my army that I have so far in my Manstein playthrough where I have 79 units and thanks to a little luck 6 SE Tanks to play with.
77293 in prestige to start with and 86 heroes already, you get them much quicker in Manstein, since you need to kill a larger number
13 Infantry 14 heroes
I do not intend to buy anymore infantry as I believe I get 2 additional infantry super heroes later on.
2 Grenadiers: +3 Def and Freidrich Pein both with 3 stars. I plan on overstrengthening each and upgrading them to 43 version and using them until they achieve 4 stars and a second hero.
2 Pioniere: +1 Move/+1 Att and +2 Def both with 3 Stars. I plan on overstrengthening each and upgrading them to 43 version and use 1 every mission to get to 4 stars experience and a 2nd hero.
2 Kradschutzen: Both with a +1 Spotting hero and 1 with 4 stars the other with 3. Plan to use as recon 1 every mission.
7 Gebirsjaeger's: +3 Def with 4 stars this is at 10 str now so I am considering converting to another unit, but not sure what Thoughts?; +3 Att 3 stars this also has 10 str so I plan on converting to Regular Inf. Thoughts?, +2 Att upgrade in path already at 13 str 3 stars, +1 Att 2 stars (going to leave as is as not my best unit; Helmut Weinsberger 3 stars either will be a Grenadier or Regular inf Thoughts?; Oleh Dir 4 stars maxing out and upgrading to 43 version; 12 str +1 Initiative 3 stars maxing out and upgrading to 43 version.
22 tanks 20 heroes
1 Pz4D +1 Def 1 star; 2 Star Char B1 +1 Att; 3 star Somua +1 Att (Not doing anything with these tanks unless I get desperate as their heroes are not the best.
2 0 star T-34/41's going to sell off as too late to build up now.
1 2 star T-34/41, that I will keep trying and wait to see what his first hero is to see if he will get an upgrade.
3 Star Albert Kerscher Double hero that makes him +5 Att/+2 Def/+2 Spotting Pz4G he will remain a Pz4 until I can upgrade him to Tiger 2 and used sparingly to try and get up to 4 stars.
+2 Att Tiger with 2 stars (Obviously using every mission until I get 2 heroes and 4 stars experience.
3 Flamms +2 Def 3 stars; +1 Movement 4 stars; Heinz Rondorf 4 Stars...Plan on using sparingly, mostly to keep around to help in city battles as I want to get one maxed out to 5 stars so I can 15 str one to try and get that elusive 20 shot kill.
5 KV's 3 KV-1B's and 2 KV-1C's they have 2 or 3 stars 2 KV-B's have +2 Defensive heroes and they will remain KV's until late in 44 where, depending on their hero allocation will get upgraded to Tiger 2's.
6 SE Pz's
4 star +2 Att/+1 Initiative Tiger
13 Str and 12 Str SE Pz3M's with +2 Def/+1 Initiative on one and +3 Att/+2 Def on the other that I will keep as Pz3's until they lose their Overstrength and then get converted to Tiger's.
+1 Initiative and +1 Movement Pz 4G's getting converted to Tiger's
Brand new Pz3J/1 getting converted to Tiger.
1 Recon 1 hero
Based on Night Phoenix's success I am converting to best current recon and going to try and get this 3 star unit to survive the war.
5 AT's 1 hero
1 3.7cm pak with 2 stars. (He is waiting to be transformed into either an Elephant or maybe an 8.8 Pak when that becomes available, not sure.)
2 Panzerjaeger 1B's 2 stars. (Going to be Elephants, no if's ands or buts about it)
2 StuG3F/8's they will be converted to G's and be utilized until the Elephants come out at which time they will lie and wait for the JagdTiger. 1 has +2 Att and 4 stars, the other has 3 stars and no hero yet.
18 artillery 18 heroes
6 17 cm arty's
1 +1 Movement/+1 Range I have considered converting him to a Nebelwerfer as they have an awesome kill count, but I kind of like having a 4 range arty that can move 2 hexes. Thoughts?
+3 Att
+2 Att
+1 Def (Not used)
2 waiting for heroes that are not brought out much as I have such great heroes on my other ones)
2 Nebelwerfers 1 +3 Att/+1 Movement the other +2 Att (these are killing machines that chew up infantry )
5 Stug 3B's
1 +1 Def that is super close to getting 2nd hero as he used to be a Sturmpanzer; 2 +2 Def, 1 +3 Def, 1 +1 Range.
(I will probably keep them StuG3B's because they are so good at what they do and so cheap) Thoughts?
2 Wurfrahmen 1 +1 range the other with +1 Range/+3 Def. They will remain as is but must keep them guarded as they are super vulnerable to air attacks.
1 Polish 10.5 cm arty not used very much but still around
1 SU-122 try to use, but I have so many better units I use instead.
9 Fighters 9 heroes
3 Bf109 F's all with 4 stars and 13 Str +1 Att, +1 Init, +3 Def. (They are waiting for jets and will be brought out on occasion to weed out their overstrength)
6 FW190a's: Only 2 with 4 stars Heinrich Bar and +3 Att; Otto Kittel, Walter Nowatny, 2 +2 Def all have 3 stars.
These guys are awesome and are my main airforce.
5 Tac Bombers 7 heroes
2 Star Recon rudel (have just to maximize hero count)
3 star +1 Def not used much
4 star +2 Def waiting for 2nd hero
2 4 star +2 Def/+2 Att nice combo.
4 Fighter Bombers 8 heroes These are my real beasts
Uber Rudel with a 2nd +2 Att hero
Helmut Lent with an additional +2 Att hero
+5 Att
+5 Def
They will all be converted to ME 410A's and used a lot.
4 Strat Bombers 3 heroes
All Henkels
+1 def Not going to be used much
+2 def and +2 Att these are my main 2 that I bring into battle to help strip the enemy and suppress big dog tanks.
Other without a hero will stay and wait for that Naval battle that never comes in the East.
That is my army. Please share your thoughts on it's composition and on my future plans.
Thanks guys you are the best.
77293 in prestige to start with and 86 heroes already, you get them much quicker in Manstein, since you need to kill a larger number
13 Infantry 14 heroes
I do not intend to buy anymore infantry as I believe I get 2 additional infantry super heroes later on.
2 Grenadiers: +3 Def and Freidrich Pein both with 3 stars. I plan on overstrengthening each and upgrading them to 43 version and using them until they achieve 4 stars and a second hero.
2 Pioniere: +1 Move/+1 Att and +2 Def both with 3 Stars. I plan on overstrengthening each and upgrading them to 43 version and use 1 every mission to get to 4 stars experience and a 2nd hero.
2 Kradschutzen: Both with a +1 Spotting hero and 1 with 4 stars the other with 3. Plan to use as recon 1 every mission.
7 Gebirsjaeger's: +3 Def with 4 stars this is at 10 str now so I am considering converting to another unit, but not sure what Thoughts?; +3 Att 3 stars this also has 10 str so I plan on converting to Regular Inf. Thoughts?, +2 Att upgrade in path already at 13 str 3 stars, +1 Att 2 stars (going to leave as is as not my best unit; Helmut Weinsberger 3 stars either will be a Grenadier or Regular inf Thoughts?; Oleh Dir 4 stars maxing out and upgrading to 43 version; 12 str +1 Initiative 3 stars maxing out and upgrading to 43 version.
22 tanks 20 heroes
1 Pz4D +1 Def 1 star; 2 Star Char B1 +1 Att; 3 star Somua +1 Att (Not doing anything with these tanks unless I get desperate as their heroes are not the best.
2 0 star T-34/41's going to sell off as too late to build up now.
1 2 star T-34/41, that I will keep trying and wait to see what his first hero is to see if he will get an upgrade.
3 Star Albert Kerscher Double hero that makes him +5 Att/+2 Def/+2 Spotting Pz4G he will remain a Pz4 until I can upgrade him to Tiger 2 and used sparingly to try and get up to 4 stars.
+2 Att Tiger with 2 stars (Obviously using every mission until I get 2 heroes and 4 stars experience.
3 Flamms +2 Def 3 stars; +1 Movement 4 stars; Heinz Rondorf 4 Stars...Plan on using sparingly, mostly to keep around to help in city battles as I want to get one maxed out to 5 stars so I can 15 str one to try and get that elusive 20 shot kill.
5 KV's 3 KV-1B's and 2 KV-1C's they have 2 or 3 stars 2 KV-B's have +2 Defensive heroes and they will remain KV's until late in 44 where, depending on their hero allocation will get upgraded to Tiger 2's.
6 SE Pz's
4 star +2 Att/+1 Initiative Tiger
13 Str and 12 Str SE Pz3M's with +2 Def/+1 Initiative on one and +3 Att/+2 Def on the other that I will keep as Pz3's until they lose their Overstrength and then get converted to Tiger's.
+1 Initiative and +1 Movement Pz 4G's getting converted to Tiger's
Brand new Pz3J/1 getting converted to Tiger.
1 Recon 1 hero
Based on Night Phoenix's success I am converting to best current recon and going to try and get this 3 star unit to survive the war.
5 AT's 1 hero
1 3.7cm pak with 2 stars. (He is waiting to be transformed into either an Elephant or maybe an 8.8 Pak when that becomes available, not sure.)
2 Panzerjaeger 1B's 2 stars. (Going to be Elephants, no if's ands or buts about it)
2 StuG3F/8's they will be converted to G's and be utilized until the Elephants come out at which time they will lie and wait for the JagdTiger. 1 has +2 Att and 4 stars, the other has 3 stars and no hero yet.
18 artillery 18 heroes
6 17 cm arty's
1 +1 Movement/+1 Range I have considered converting him to a Nebelwerfer as they have an awesome kill count, but I kind of like having a 4 range arty that can move 2 hexes. Thoughts?
+3 Att
+2 Att
+1 Def (Not used)
2 waiting for heroes that are not brought out much as I have such great heroes on my other ones)
2 Nebelwerfers 1 +3 Att/+1 Movement the other +2 Att (these are killing machines that chew up infantry )
5 Stug 3B's
1 +1 Def that is super close to getting 2nd hero as he used to be a Sturmpanzer; 2 +2 Def, 1 +3 Def, 1 +1 Range.
(I will probably keep them StuG3B's because they are so good at what they do and so cheap) Thoughts?
2 Wurfrahmen 1 +1 range the other with +1 Range/+3 Def. They will remain as is but must keep them guarded as they are super vulnerable to air attacks.
1 Polish 10.5 cm arty not used very much but still around
1 SU-122 try to use, but I have so many better units I use instead.
9 Fighters 9 heroes
3 Bf109 F's all with 4 stars and 13 Str +1 Att, +1 Init, +3 Def. (They are waiting for jets and will be brought out on occasion to weed out their overstrength)
6 FW190a's: Only 2 with 4 stars Heinrich Bar and +3 Att; Otto Kittel, Walter Nowatny, 2 +2 Def all have 3 stars.
These guys are awesome and are my main airforce.
5 Tac Bombers 7 heroes
2 Star Recon rudel (have just to maximize hero count)
3 star +1 Def not used much
4 star +2 Def waiting for 2nd hero
2 4 star +2 Def/+2 Att nice combo.
4 Fighter Bombers 8 heroes These are my real beasts
Uber Rudel with a 2nd +2 Att hero
Helmut Lent with an additional +2 Att hero
+5 Att
+5 Def
They will all be converted to ME 410A's and used a lot.
4 Strat Bombers 3 heroes
All Henkels
+1 def Not going to be used much
+2 def and +2 Att these are my main 2 that I bring into battle to help strip the enemy and suppress big dog tanks.
Other without a hero will stay and wait for that Naval battle that never comes in the East.
That is my army. Please share your thoughts on it's composition and on my future plans.
Thanks guys you are the best.