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Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:45 am
by best75
I completed the winter war campaign and was looking at my core when I spot this soviet infantry in it
Why is it there?
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Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:05 am
by GiveWarAchance
Maybe spies. Red Army had special skill at infiltration.
Or maybe Hiwis that want to hang out in Finnish saunas rather than in a cold POW camp.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:20 am
by Asap
Did you notice the Japanese Infantry '37 too? The player gets one in the Tali Ihantala scenario. Not a core unit but after all.. :o

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:40 pm
by bru888
best75 wrote:I completed the winter war campaign and was looking at my core when I spot this soviet infantry in it
Why is it there?
That's a head scratcher. I didn't have that happen to me when I played WW.
GiveWarAchance wrote:Maybe spies. Red Army had special skill at infiltration.
Or maybe Hiwis that want to hang out in Finnish saunas rather than in a cold POW camp.
Heh. I was thinking more of "prisoners of war" or "turncoats" but as usual your fertile mind produces a much better rationalization!
Asap wrote:Did you notice the Japanese Infantry '37 too? The player gets one in the Tali Ihantala scenario. Not a core unit but after all.. :o
That's my one standing criticism of OOB, that some reported bugs in old DLC have never been fixed. Don't worry, I am compiling a list and someday, someday . . .

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:52 pm
by best75
Asap wrote:Did you notice the Japanese Infantry '37 too? The player gets one in the Tali Ihantala scenario. Not a core unit but after all.. :o
I saw that Japanese unit too. I am wondering how the Finnish got Japanese and soviet troops in their army now.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:22 pm
by bru888
best75 wrote:
Asap wrote:Did you notice the Japanese Infantry '37 too? The player gets one in the Tali Ihantala scenario. Not a core unit but after all.. :o
I saw that Japanese unit too. I am wondering how the Finnish got Japanese and soviet troops in their army now.
Well, the thing that Asap is pointing out is a scenario flaw. If I remember correctly, that unit appears on the map under Finnish flag but is quickly annihilated which probably explains why it was not noticed during development. Your thing with the rogue Soviet infantry could be something to do with the mechanism to prepare the core for export at campaign end, although that feature is not actually used in Winter War.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:00 pm
by best75
I checked again and it seems the Soviet inf only appears if I click to turn the filter for land units off than click to turn it on again.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:41 pm
by bru888
best75 wrote:I checked again and it seems the Soviet inf only appears if I click to turn the filter for land units off than click to turn it on again.
I just went through every Winter War scenario in the editor, looking for spawn triggers that do what Asap's example shows: Spawn a Soviet infantry unit but under the Finnish flag. I could not find any such instance.

So the only thing that I can advise is to re-post in Tech Support with a link back to this thread but, to be honest, this seems to be so rare and quirky that I doubt it will receive attention at this stage. You would need to send them your game files, so please save them just in case.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:15 am
by best75
I checked its history and it says I gotten it in the Tali-Ihantala scenario. I don't recall ever getting it there.
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Really this bug is not a big deal, its does not affect gameplay and is kinda funny.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:14 am
by GiveWarAchance
Have you used the soviet infantry in battle? It would be a good fodder unit for soaking up incoming ordnance.

Re: Soviet Inf part of my core?

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:23 am
by best75
GiveWarAchance wrote:Have you used the soviet infantry in battle? It would be a good fodder unit for soaking up incoming ordnance.
Have not ever used the Soviet infantry. I don't think I can. I checked it combat stats and it has never been in combat