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Mixed BG in Melee - POA question

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:06 am
by gozerius
The rules state that 2nd rank bases use the same net POAs as the front rank. Does this also apply to mixed BGs where the second rank is a different armor class, has different weapon capabilities etc.?

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:36 am
by carlos
Yes. Bear in mind that if the 2nd rank is composed of LF then you'd deduct dice normally. So a front rank of 2 HF at ++ w/ 2 back rankers who are LF will fight with 3 dice overall at ++.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:37 am
by babyshark
Short answer: yes.

Slightly more elaborated answer: yes, until the front rank base fails a death throw and goes home, which causes the old second rank to become the new front rank for that file . . . .

Marc

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:41 am
by CrazyHarborc
Glad I just read this/that statement. A good reminder that the dead (front rank) base should be the one removed.. I know, it only makes a difference if the Fr base is different from the ones behind.

Same subject different question

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:27 pm
by Evamike
Same subject different question.
I was having some difficulty in taking out some superior auxillary with lancers and to make their next charge more effective wanted to charge him in the rear with light javelinmen. His rear rank being LI bow and as he was being charged to front by lancers. I know that they would not require to drop a level but would the LI rank turn to face assuming that the LI could charge the rear/LI or as my oponant suggested that the Bg was MI therefore I could not charge at all. At the very least I would have liked the fighting to two faces poe. We decided as the battle was already going my way not to proceed with the charge at all.
Bye the way any army with an allowed third rank I would always include them as they saved their unit on many tests due to increase in numbers from shooting and adding the extra dice in combat were very effective.

Re: Same subject different question

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:08 pm
by rbodleyscott
Evamike wrote:Same subject different question.
I was having some difficulty in taking out some superior auxillary with lancers and to make their next charge more effective wanted to charge him in the rear with light javelinmen. His rear rank being LI bow and as he was being charged to front by lancers. I know that they would not require to drop a level but would the LI rank turn to face assuming that the LI could charge the rear/LI or as my oponant suggested that the Bg was MI therefore I could not charge at all.
LF only count as skirmishers if in BGs entirely of LF. Mixed BGs are non-skirmishers, so LF cannot charge them (even in the flank/rear) in open terrain.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:09 pm
by hammy
Light foot cannot charge non skirmishers and the rank of light foot in a mixed BG are specifically defined as not being skirmishers. As a result unless the mixed BG was not in good going then the light foot could not charge.