Slitherine

What happens to a Commander who is fighting in the front rank of a scythed chariot BG when it is removed at the end of the turn?

I haven't got my rules book here but I am not sure than a general can fight at the front rank !
Tell you later if nobody reply with or without page number !

Well done! I think you have found something on which the rules are silent. Most people don't use Scythed Chariots - I've certainly never heard of someone putting a Commander with them.

For my money the Chariots are removed at the start of the JAP. The Commander stays on the table. Play on as normal.

Others will argue that as the Chariots are removed from the table the Commander should be removed as well but this is not in the rules either.

It would be an umpire's call if it were a competition game.

LEmpereur wrote:I haven't got my rules book here but I am not sure than a general can fight at the front rank !
Tell you later if nobody reply with or without page number !

I didn't think they could, but the general could be with them but not fighting which would produce the same effect when they disappear

Okay - my apologies - I've found it - but it was well hidden! Page 24. So there is no point having a Commander in combat with Scythed Chariots.

Thanks !
Now I am sure !

But what If he is with them

See my original answer

petedalby wrote:See my original answer

You're the umpire Pete, call it

philqw78 wrote:

petedalby wrote:See my original answer

You're the umpire Pete, call it

No Phil !

Pete is the Master !

You're the umpire Pete, call it

If I were the umpire the Chariots would be removed at the start of the JAP. The Commander would stay on the table. Play on as normal.

But I can't think of any good reason why a Commander would need to be with the Scythed Chariots in his own Impact phase. I've never seen it in x years of playing FoG.

petedalby wrote:

You're the umpire Pete, call it

If I were the umpire the Chariots would be removed at the start of the JAP. The Commander would stay on the table. Play on as normal.

But I can't think of any good reason why a Commander would need to be with the Scythed Chariots in his own Impact phase. I've never seen it in x years of playing FoG.

I'd agree with that. I'd give the opposition the chance of throwing a ten to kill the general.

I wrote:You're the umpire Pete, call it

petedalby wrote:If I were the umpire the Chariots would be removed at the start of the JAP. The Commander would stay on the table. Play on as normal.

But I can't think of any good reason why a Commander would need to be with the Scythed Chariots in his own Impact phase. I've never seen it in x years of playing FoG.

Perhaps he was bolstering the chariots in the previous JAP

dave_r wrote:I'd agree with that. I'd give the opposition the chance of throwing a ten to kill the general.

That's disagreeing Dave

RSDPIT wrote:What happens to a Commander who is fighting in the front rank of a scythed chariot BG when it is removed at the end of the turn?

Page 24, commanders cannot affect the re-rolls of scythed chariots. So there is no reason to put him into combat.

But let us say you are foolish enough to have committed him to combat anyway and he survives to the JAP phase:

- the scythed chariots are removed. The commander remains (no reason to remove him)
- later in the JAP the commander may be removed. Let us say you forget.
- the next chance for the commander to be lost is in the enemy movement phase. P52: if a BG's move would take it into contact or shooting range of an enemy commander who is not with a BG.. - essentially he either moves to friends within his move distance or is lost.