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When light foot shoot from 1/3 rank they can only shoot in a supporting role against Mounted troops, however it says 3rd rank troops will have 1 dice per base but use shooting P.O.A. Page 98
The next paragraph cover Light foot and Horse fighting where it says Lose 1 dice per 2 unless foot fighting foot or horse fighting foot or horse or fragmented enemy.

so the question is "as the rear rank is shooting not fighting does it get 2 dice plus shooting POA (only pike can count third rank fighting) or is it fighting in which case it can't shoot any how and loosing 1 dice per 2 becomes irrelevant?

RSDPIT wrote:When light foot shoot from 1/3 rank they can only shoot in a supporting role against Mounted troops, however it says 3rd rank troops will have 1 dice per base but use shooting P.O.A. Page 98
The next paragraph cover Light foot and Horse fighting where it says Lose 1 dice per 2 unless foot fighting foot or horse fighting foot or horse or fragmented enemy.

so the question is "as the rear rank is shooting not fighting does it get 2 dice plus shooting POA (only pike can count third rank fighting) or is it fighting in which case it can't shoot any how and loosing 1 dice per 2 becomes irrelevant?

LF at third rank add they usual shooting dice at the impact against mouNted...

1 impact = 2 dices + 1 LF shooting dices
2 impacts = 4 dices + 1 LF shooting dices
1 impact = 6 dices + 2 LF shooting dices
2 impacts = 8 dices + 2 LF shooting dices

1 impact = 2 dices + 1 LF shooting dices
2 impacts = 4 dices + 1 LF shooting dices
1 impact = 6 dices + 2 LF shooting dices
2 impacts = 8 dices + 2 LF shooting dices

Should it be translated this way ?

1 base impacted, 2 dice for impact + 1 dice for the LF shooting
2 bases impacted, 4 dice for impact + 1 shooting dice forthe LF shooting
3 bases impacted , 6 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting
4 bases impacted, 8 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting

Is that what you mean ?

But if we go to page 176 and have a look at shooting dice the principle is having one shooting dicie for every FULL set of 2 bases so it should be :

1 base impacted, 2 dice for impact + 0 dice for the LF shooting
2 bases impacted, 4 dice for impact + 1 shooting dice forthe LF shooting
3 bases impacted , 6 dice for impact + 1 dice for the LF shooting
4 bases impacted, 8 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting

As the rer rank is shooting as a support

This is impact dices... not shooting dices IMIO.

Bows who do not shoot

Someone better qualified will have to decide as I do not agree with l'Empereur as

pg 90 : 2nd and 3rd ranks bases of foot who were charged this turn can sometimes SHOOT as part of impact ...ok it also says "this is dealt with the combat section of the rules"

So what is the right mechanism ?

They shoot and they are threated as shooter or as melee fighters ?

1 base impacted, 2 dice for impact + 1 dice for the LF shooting
2 bases impacted, 4 dice for impact + 1 shooting dice forthe LF shooting
3 bases impacted , 6 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting
4 bases impacted, 8 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting

This bit is correct.

See page 98 - specifies support shooting dice as Impact - then reduces LF dice.

I know I someimes push a bit but some people should learn how to write rules with no openings to discussions

petedalby wrote:

LEmpereur wrote:1 base impacted, 2 dice for impact + 1 dice for the LF shooting
2 bases impacted, 4 dice for impact + 1 shooting dice forthe LF shooting
3 bases impacted , 6 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting
4 bases impacted, 8 dice for impact + 2 dice for the LF shooting

This bit is correct.

See page 98 - specifies support shooting dice as Impact - then reduces LF dice.

Thanks Pete !