Slitherine

pg 153 : Unless in close combat, other types make an immediate evade move PERPENDICULARLY away from the side table edge , even if a type not normaly able to evade. They do so as if evading in the direction of of a charge from that direction

the problem we discussed was the word "perpendicularly" . We had a small disagreement . My opponent stressed the word "perpendicularly" and I the fact that the evade was done as if charged.

My unit was facing the ennemy flank marche but was not completely parralel to the side edge so as to evade to the rear but slightly at a 45° angle.

my opponent wanted me to turn as to be strickly parallel to the side edge so I would hit one of my own unit . But I stressed the fact that if I could evade as if charged, I could evade on my rear not being charged from the flank or the rear .

What should we have done ? What is the right solution ?

And by the way, I suppose the evade move is done during the exact movement phase when the flank march enters the floor

Attached diagram of situation,
I believe this is the solution:-
"unless already in close combat, other types make an immediate evade move perpendicularly away from the side table edge, even if of a type not normally able to evade.They do so as if evading in the direction of a charge from that direction (As per impact phase section)"

Impact section page 70 " if evading in the direction of charge, the battle group must first turn 180 or 90 degrees (players choice) unless its existing facing is closer to the direction of the charge,It must then wheel until it is facing a direction parallel to the chargers indicated direction of charge, it then completes its full move forwards, adjusting for VMD

So in this situation the evading unit will complete a 180 then wheel to the direction of charge, this will mean it will meet a friendly Bg that it cannot interpenetrate then Para 3 page 72 rule can be used

"It can shift sideways upto one base width to get past friendly troops it cannot interpenetrate"
if that isnt enough then Para 4 page 72 rule can be used
"Providing that they do not shift more than one base sideways, bases that cannot get past can be moved to the rear of those bases that have been able to complete their evade move"

However
"If all of the above would not allow all front rank bases to complete their evade move they must burst through any friendly troops in the way

Wheel to perpendicular then move, shifting if possible like an evade

Ok but why wheel . It is not mandatory if you evade ( impact rules ) .

Evading from a flank march is then very different from evading a charge

Because the move must be perpendicular to the edge

philqw78 wrote:Because the move must be perpendicular to the edge

Page 153...could not more clear !

"Unless already in close combat....immediate evade move perpendicularly..."

The problem being : They do so as if evading in the direction of of a charge from that direction

But they may not do as if charged because it must be perpendicular

bahdahbum wrote:The problem being : They do so as if evading in the direction of of a charge from that direction

But they may not do as if charged because it must be perpendicular

You must read to the end... "...from the side table hedge..."

Read it please !
I will not write all the rule... !

Sadly the perpendicular requirement takes precedence Jacques. As Phil said - you wheel to be perpendicular and then evade away. If the evaders cannot shift to avoid their friends then they will burst through them.

It's not a mistake you ever need to make twice.

I was teasing l'Empereur

And I did not have to burst trough in this case

Been too long I played FOGAM with some regularity, it dies out in Belgium and France

bahdahbum wrote:I was teasing l'Empereur

I known that Jacques... However .. we will solve all the same, that in Ballainvilliers at the end of the month!

bahdahbum wrote:...Been too long I played FOGAM with some regularity, it dies out in Belgium and France

I am not sure even if we are less thant 20 to play in tournament... we are a band of old and good friends and we are allways very happy to meet each other... are kill tjem too !

FoG is the rule that unites us and after talking with everyone this weekend shows that FoG V2 should remain our favorite rule ... at least for our group of good friends!

But you will read more on the french forum soon and your opinion will be wellcome and thaht of other belgium friends !

See you in Ballanvilliers... you will reconize me easilly... I will be naked and tattooed in blue !

A latter pictish army ( or early ) I did have a look at it a few days ago

bahdahbum wrote:A latter pictish army ( or early ) I did have a look at it a few days ago

Later !
Early we feel ourself naked...

Here's to see more of the bagage : http://zoom13.perso.neuf.fr/empereurcolegrame1er.htm