Slitherine

Can a unit that has moved twice and been forced to stop at exactly 6 MU's (because the rule says that you can not move within 6MU's) claim a long range shot of 6MU's? DBx used to deal with this by saying that if you had marched you could not shoot. I can find no similar limitation. The hair that need splitting is "If a unit is forced to stop because it can not move within 6MU is it considered to be at 6MU's? " Sorry if this has been asked before.
Gino
SMAC

Hello Gino.
We have been playing it as " can't go within 6MUs" means that marching units must stop just beyond 6MUs and are out long range.

John

I think you are both wrong. From my understanding the unit has to start its second move outside 6 MU, it can then move as close as it likes in the second move, subject to its normal move range.

p. 75: "Neither the 1st nor the 2nd move can start, end or go within 6 MUs of any enemy..." Range p. 85 "...in range if a front corner or any part of its front edge is within range of the target." We play that since you can't second move within 6 MUs and must be within 6 MU's (for foot bow) to shoot, no shooting after a second move.

madmike111 wrote:I think you are both wrong. From my understanding the unit has to start its second move outside 6 MU, it can then move as close as it likes in the second move, subject to its normal move range.

No, iirc a second move is allowed only if it doesn't start, pass through or end within 6" from any enemy BG.

In the glossary on P136 it clearly defies within to mean "At or closer than".

As you cannot make a second move within 6MU and within includes at 6MU you cannot make a second move to shooting range.

Correct. This was certainly the intent of ther 3 of us and I think it is clear in the rules if you refer to the relevant bits as james suggests so not an FQ issue.

Si

It is quite clear. More of hazy holdover from other rules.

This does mean that HF that double march cannot be at exactly 6 MU and thus will take 3 turns to move.
Which effects firepower a good bit

hazelbark wrote:It is quite clear. More of hazy holdover from other rules.

This does mean that HF that double march cannot be at exactly 6 MU and thus will take 3 turns to move.

Indeed it does.

Which effects firepower a good bit

But you could screen them with LF.