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Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:20 pm
by Bylandt11
I loved the first OOB game. I bought the two expansions without reservation. But US Marines was rather repetitive. And Morning Sun was even boring. I couldn't bring myself to finish the whole campaign. Was it bad scenario design, the wrong subject matter (Chino-Japanese war) of the missing naval combat, so important in the orginal game?

So I'm in doubt about buying Winter War. Is it better?

Re: Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:39 am
by Zipuli
Yes it is better. Though there's only 1 scenario with very limited naval battle, if you are mostly into that. What you will have, is quite many defensive battles vs. quite a strong enemy, and the opportunity to use space properly to take advantage of the game's supply system against your enemy. And it has a few more scenarios.

Re: Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:48 am
by Bylandt11
I love those type of battles. I always thought there were fare too few of them in Panzer General or Panzer Corps.

Thanks for the advice.

Re: Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:20 am
by mhladnik
I'm enjoying the scenarios; half-way through, and the campaign has been quite varied!

Re: Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:16 am
by WarHomer
I like it too, although there are quite a few big defensive battles where the russians just pound you and without much room for maneuverability.

Re: Is Winter War better than Morning Sun?

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:06 pm
by Uhu
I played the first 5 scenarios and except one - which was just a slaughter (luckily this time on my side :) ) and therefore boring - the other 4 were really hard to make a success with most secondary goals achived too. I had many times reload turns and also several times reload the whole mission to make it better. OK, I must admit, I played it on the hardest difficulty. :)

For me this OOB DLC is the first one, I just play(ed) PzC as hell (Battlefield Europe mod so many times...), so it is a quite refreshing gameplay to mee. Although I feel, that is is not yer really polished - I have a huge list, what should have fixed, developed, but still a great game.

For Winter War, the arty settings are perfect - stronger arty would unbalance the game and make this game also Feldhaubitze Corps.

The only big issue for me, that without arty backup and real defense possibilities - I do not feel, that cities, sandbags, forests would do much help... - I cannot build a solid defense line. Also bombers cannot be really effective guarded: the fighter of the enemy takes not a big damage and the bombers take at least 4.