Slitherine

Can units evade through other units already in combat? So spare files from the unit in combat are not facing enemy to front or only acting as an overlap.
I presume in that case light foot could evade or move through the unit in combat.

Regards
Geoff Frost

There is no restriction to interpenetration of troops in combat so yes light foot can evade through friends in combat.

Not something that has happened in any of the games I have played but it is there none the less.

Thanks Hammy. And this did happen in a recent game causing much discussion. I still debate about evading through troops already fighting as an overlap in combat. I have no problem with evading though unengaged parts of a unit.

Regards
Geoff Frost

Hmm, trying to imagine this on the table.

I'm assuming that the BGs in question would be facing in (generally) the same or opposite direction.

I work hard to assure that I'll always have "clean" evade moves. I once spent a good 15 minutes or more of tournament time when things got messy (had to pour over rules and endure much angst.) Not my idea of fun.

You will be glad to know that with a bit of practice making sure you have evade paths becomes almost second nature, much like making sure you have recoil room in DBM. Now remembering to leave space for breakoffs, that is my current issue.

Well at a push you only need 1 MU - saved me a couple of times

At the risk of hijacking this thread:

Lately, I'm trying to train myself to leave rear support BGs as far back as possible and leave paths for routers.

hercimurthemediocre wrote:At the risk of hijacking this thread:

Lately, I'm trying to train myself to leave rear support BGs as far back as possible and leave paths for routers.

It is certainly worth being aware that you can get rear support from BGs 8 or 12 MU back.

Remembering that foot can provided rear support up to 8 MUs back (and mounted 12 MUs) is something I am working on, too, along with providing an evade/rout lane

daleivan wrote:Remembering that foot can provided rear support up to 8 MUs back (and mounted 12 MUs) is something I am working on, too, along with providing an evade/rout lane

The one wide column behind the join between BGs, or the perfectly positioned 2-wide formation, provides the rear support and lanes and can be close enough to the battle line to plug gaps or block/attack pursuers, though with Undrilled it can take a Commander with them to get them to act usefully (maneuvering or deploying out).

Mike

Care needs to be taken when in column supporting two BGs as all the supporting bases must be within 8MUs or 12MUs of the rear supported groups.

For example, a 10 base BG of fine manly pictish spearmen need 5 other base behind them, that is slightly over 80mm, or just over 3MUs from the front of the supporting base to the start of the 5th supporting base, given that you don't want to be closer then 3MUs from the back supported BG for CTs if they break, the is just a couple of MUs tolerance. It is easy to get caught out if you just move the supporters a wee bit short, or forget it is not just measured to the front of the column.

MikeK wrote:

daleivan wrote:Remembering that foot can provided rear support up to 8 MUs back (and mounted 12 MUs) is something I am working on, too, along with providing an evade/rout lane

The one wide column behind the join between BGs, or the perfectly positioned 2-wide formation, provides the rear support and lanes and can be close enough to the battle line to plug gaps or block/attack pursuers, though with Undrilled it can take a Commander with them to get them to act usefully (maneuvering or deploying out).

Mike

Of course, your perfectly positoned rear support may not be perfectly positioned after your fighting troops have conformed to the enemy.