Mid-Republic Romans vs. Late Carthaginians (1000 pt battle)
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:33 pm
A Battle in Pictures
A 1000 point battle between Late Carthage and a Mid-Republic Roman Army (once more played by me). My commentary is in italics.
We're running a campaign at the club, so this battle was Carthage's attempt to cross the Alps into Italy. In an earlier battle, they had defeated some Gauls, so in this one we allowed them to take Gallic allies.
Roman Army (17BG)
Legion I (veteran): 4 x H&P, 4 x H&P, 4 x velites, 2 x triarii
Legion II & III: 8 x H&P, 8 x H&P, 8 x velites, 4 x triarii
Legion IV: 4 x H&P, 4 x H&P, 4 x velites, 2 x triarii
Alae: 8 x Italian Allied Foot, 6 x Scutarii, 4 x Pedites Extraordinarii, 4 x Cavalry (armored), 4 x Cavalry (protected)
Commanders: IC CinC, 2 x FC, 1 x TC
Late Carthage Army (17BG)
Apparently the scutarii should have been 8 bases, not 6. And I'm hazy on what the cavarly was (a running theme in this battle).
Main Force: 6 x African Spearmen, 6 x African Spearmen, 2 x Elephants, 2 x Elephants, 6 x mercenary Scutarii, 6 x mercenary scutarii, 6 x Javelinmen, 6 x Baelric Slingers, 4 x Spanish Cavalry, 4 x Spanish Cavalry, 6 x Spanish Light Horse
Commanders: IC CinC (Hannibal), 1 x FC
Gallic Allies: 12 x Warriors, 12 x Warriors, 4 x Gallic Cavarly, 1 x TC
Numidian Allies: 6 x Numidian Light Horse, 6 x Numidian Light Horse, 6 x Numidian Light Foot, 1 x FC
It was a huge battle, with 1000 points on each side and full of things I, at least, hadn't seen before. Lots of terrain that came down in the middle of the table, rather than out to the edges. A river. An outflank.
Carthage won the initiative, so Rome set up first and moved first (a rule, it turned out, we'd all missed ... thank you, forums, for mentioning this little oddity).

The patches of golden felt are enclosed fields.
Since Carthage had kindly detailed out his expectation that I would do my standard deployment in discussion before the battle, I decided to try some different stuff. Past experience so far shown that my wings are very vulnerable with just medium foot and cavalry, so with the addition of 2 Legions, I decided to deploy them wide as a way to bolster against a cavalry sweep. I'd also decided, given the strength of the Carthaginian cavalry, in general, to not bother with my cavalry on the board... instead, I sent them on an outflank to my left.
The terrain layout here favored me, I think. The impassable river helped tighten the field a bit, so my right flank was anchored. The plantation and enclosed fields came down in the wings such that I could use them as cover for the medium foot. My left wing was hanging, so I put the Veterans on that side, to anchor it.

Carthage also had an outflank force (on his right) - the Numidian allies.
My main concern, based on the Carthage set-up was the center. My Legion would have to advance up the enclosed field, which would put it at a disadvantage against all that Spanish and Gallic foot who had the numbers to get around me. The right and left wings concerned me as well, since the African spearmen might pin me and let the cavalry and elephants get the flanks. Still, my choice to put the Legions wide seemed to pay off here, since it gave me a heavy strike force on each wing and threw the Carthage player off his game plan. I think the outflank had the same effect, since it stalled the Numidian allies.
A 1000 point battle between Late Carthage and a Mid-Republic Roman Army (once more played by me). My commentary is in italics.
We're running a campaign at the club, so this battle was Carthage's attempt to cross the Alps into Italy. In an earlier battle, they had defeated some Gauls, so in this one we allowed them to take Gallic allies.
Roman Army (17BG)
Legion I (veteran): 4 x H&P, 4 x H&P, 4 x velites, 2 x triarii
Legion II & III: 8 x H&P, 8 x H&P, 8 x velites, 4 x triarii
Legion IV: 4 x H&P, 4 x H&P, 4 x velites, 2 x triarii
Alae: 8 x Italian Allied Foot, 6 x Scutarii, 4 x Pedites Extraordinarii, 4 x Cavalry (armored), 4 x Cavalry (protected)
Commanders: IC CinC, 2 x FC, 1 x TC
Late Carthage Army (17BG)
Apparently the scutarii should have been 8 bases, not 6. And I'm hazy on what the cavarly was (a running theme in this battle).
Main Force: 6 x African Spearmen, 6 x African Spearmen, 2 x Elephants, 2 x Elephants, 6 x mercenary Scutarii, 6 x mercenary scutarii, 6 x Javelinmen, 6 x Baelric Slingers, 4 x Spanish Cavalry, 4 x Spanish Cavalry, 6 x Spanish Light Horse
Commanders: IC CinC (Hannibal), 1 x FC
Gallic Allies: 12 x Warriors, 12 x Warriors, 4 x Gallic Cavarly, 1 x TC
Numidian Allies: 6 x Numidian Light Horse, 6 x Numidian Light Horse, 6 x Numidian Light Foot, 1 x FC
It was a huge battle, with 1000 points on each side and full of things I, at least, hadn't seen before. Lots of terrain that came down in the middle of the table, rather than out to the edges. A river. An outflank.
Carthage won the initiative, so Rome set up first and moved first (a rule, it turned out, we'd all missed ... thank you, forums, for mentioning this little oddity).

The patches of golden felt are enclosed fields.
Since Carthage had kindly detailed out his expectation that I would do my standard deployment in discussion before the battle, I decided to try some different stuff. Past experience so far shown that my wings are very vulnerable with just medium foot and cavalry, so with the addition of 2 Legions, I decided to deploy them wide as a way to bolster against a cavalry sweep. I'd also decided, given the strength of the Carthaginian cavalry, in general, to not bother with my cavalry on the board... instead, I sent them on an outflank to my left.
The terrain layout here favored me, I think. The impassable river helped tighten the field a bit, so my right flank was anchored. The plantation and enclosed fields came down in the wings such that I could use them as cover for the medium foot. My left wing was hanging, so I put the Veterans on that side, to anchor it.

Carthage also had an outflank force (on his right) - the Numidian allies.
My main concern, based on the Carthage set-up was the center. My Legion would have to advance up the enclosed field, which would put it at a disadvantage against all that Spanish and Gallic foot who had the numbers to get around me. The right and left wings concerned me as well, since the African spearmen might pin me and let the cavalry and elephants get the flanks. Still, my choice to put the Legions wide seemed to pay off here, since it gave me a heavy strike force on each wing and threw the Carthage player off his game plan. I think the outflank had the same effect, since it stalled the Numidian allies.

















